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11-20-2013, 05:45 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by dansamy Quote
I actually gave serious consideration to it.

I've found a k-m/k2000 with both 18-55 & 50-200 kit lenses for $250. I think I'd sell the kit lenses because I have the 18-55 & the longer 55-300. I'd probably want to get an upgrade & she could use the 18-55.
I almost suggested a K2000. Really a wonderful and under-rated little body. My wife loved hers so much that I couldn't talk her out of it until I said we could give it to her sister. I've seen some terrific images come from it with nothing more than an 18-250 superzoom attached.

As to the K-01, while it is obviously an excellent camera, I'm guessing your daughter wants the whole DSLR experience and using the K-01 can sometimes feel and look more like a PnS. She also may get frustrated with the AF sometimes, just as my wife does. That's something else that can make it feel "less-serious" than a DSLR.

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I almost suggested a K2000. Really a wonderful and under-rated little body. My wife loved hers so much that I couldn't talk her out of it until I said we could give it to her sister. I've seen some terrific images come from it with nothing more than an 18-250 superzoom attached.

As to the K-01, while it is obviously an excellent camera, I'm guessing your daughter wants the whole DSLR experience and using the K-01 can sometimes feel and look more like a PnS. She also may get frustrated with the AF sometimes, just as my wife does. That's something else that can make it feel "less-serious" than a DSLR.
Up until the K-3 (which I don't have) all my pentax dlsrs AF made it feel like a "less-serious" dslr... haha
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Well, if you want to get her a DSLR and not your hand me down, what about a used K-x with the 18-55mm? Or would that be too much like Dad?
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Mom.

Also, while looking for a camera for her, I'm considering her needs/desires in a lens. If I end up with a package that includes lenses that I choose to sell, I'd be looking for a "super zoom" style of lens to be her primary lens. What's a reasonably decent and modestly priced lens covering about 18-28ish through 150-200ish? (Wiggle room on either end of course.)

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This reminds me of a joke we used to have amongst the staff when I worked as a camera salesman.

"I want a camera for my daughter"

"Bring her in and we'll give you an offer for her"
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QuoteOriginally posted by dansamy Quote
Mom.
Sorry, I saw just "Dan,"
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Sorry, I saw just "Dan,"
That's quite common. Most people don't get it until I point it out to them. Break my user name into two words. Dan's Amy.
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When my oldest turned 16 I gave her my K-m then a year and half later when my youngest turned 13 I had upgraded to the K-5 so my oldest got my K-x and my 13 yr old got my K-m. My youngest has became the most interested in photography so after the first of the year she will be getting my K-5 when I upgrade to the K-3 and the wife is learning how to use the K-m.
I say either upgrade yourself and give her the K-x which I am sure she will love or get her a K-m which still takes great photos.

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I'd buy the cheapest used body you can find. An *ist DS would be an awesome choice. If I would've had a camera like that at her age, my head would've popped off.
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I'd buy the cheapest used body you can find. An *ist DS would be an awesome choice. If I would've had a camera like that at her age, my head would've popped off.
I disagree.

The K-X is a great starter camera, The *ist DS is fairly old tech by now.

Upgrading the K-x and giving it to the kid is a nice reward to both mom and daughter.

I doubt very much that a K-x will make a modern 13 year old's head pop off.

Why give the kid almost 10 year old tech with terrible ISO performance?

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My daughter will have her drivers licence next summer, And she will get her mothers 2008 Jeep Liberty 4wd.
My Wife will buy herself a new Jeep, And everybody will have something decent and safe to drive around in.
I'm not going to buy my kid a 1989 Chevy Cavalier Just so that her head won't pop off.
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wow kind of agree with mills ware, did not even think about a used K-01... I love mine. My Kx sits on the shelf since the K-01 showed up.

It has the K5 sensor and is fun to use.
Mine too, the K-x hasn't been out since we bought the K-01, I mean the K-x is white, the K-01 is white, the K-01 has a much better sensor… and it uses the white K-x lens (18-55) if you want to look really cool.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Corto-PA Quote
The K-X is a great starter camera, The *ist DS is fairly old tech by now.
Upgrading the K-x and giving it to the kid is a nice reward to both mom and daughter.
I doubt very much that a K-x will make a modern 13 year old's head pop off.
Why give the kid almost 10 year old tech with terrible ISO performance?
Took these with an *ist DS:




These were also taken with an *ist DS.

More than good enough for a 13 year old (and probably most grown-ups) IMO.
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Ok, the price dropped on the k-m/k2000 kit to $200. I pulled the trigger. I think she'll be thrilled with it.

Now, I have extra kit lenses to sell to help finance probably a super zoom.

Current lens list, once everything arrives:
(2) 18-55mm DA Kit lenses
(1) 50-200mm DA
(1) 55-300mm DW
(1) 28mm manual lens
(1) 35mm DA
(1) 35-80mm Pentax F
(1) 80-200mm Pentax F

I'm pretty sure I want to sell one 18-55, the 50-200mm, maybe the F lenses if neither of us like them. I know I want to keep the manual lens. I just bought it, so I want to play with it for a while. I'll probably let her use the 35mm for our next Disney trip in December.
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Well, I'm very unhappy at the moment. The k2000 I bought, advertised as sellerrrefurbished & fully functional, has a frozen MF-AF switch. On MF of course. I bought this for my daughter. I've already opened my eBay case. Guess I might be upgrading mine after all & handing down my K-x.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Corto-PA Quote
I disagree.

The K-X is a great starter camera, The *ist DS is fairly old tech by now.

Upgrading the K-x and giving it to the kid is a nice reward to both mom and daughter.

I doubt very much that a K-x will make a modern 13 year old's head pop off.

Why give the kid almost 10 year old tech with terrible ISO performance?

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My daughter will have her drivers licence next summer, And she will get her mothers 2008 Jeep Liberty 4wd.
My Wife will buy herself a new Jeep, And everybody will have something decent and safe to drive around in.
I'm not going to buy my kid a 1989 Chevy Cavalier Just so that her head won't pop off.
I disagree. The *ist DS can produce excellent images and it would be a great learning tool for a young kid. It's also quite a bit cheaper than a more modern camera. So, if it gets banged, dropped, lost, or even stolen then there's less regret compared to a costlier camera. Kids are happy to just take pictures and join in on the fun. A used DSLR like the *ist is that plus a great learning tool as her skills mature. An *ist DS + a used 18-55mm DA lens would indeed make most kid's "head pop off" as we are saying here. Heck, it makes my head pop off!

Cars and cameras... two very different realms. I wouldn't compare the two.

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