K-30 Glitch

RTFM · 02-10-2014, 12:59 PM

I have just bought a K-30 having just sold my K20d.
Initial impressions are very favourable.
The firmware the camera came with was 1.00 and looking at the Ricoh w/s there was a later version 1.05 so I did the upgrade. All went well, the upgrade was accepted.
The issue I am having is that If I take out the SDHC card to download images and put it back in the camera, sometimes the orange light down in the right corner on the back does not blink and I can't power up the K-30. The only solution I have found is to disconnect/reconnect the battery then all is well. This does not happen every time, maybe 1 in 10 times but it is irritatating.
I have not had the camera very long so I do not know if this was happening on the earlier firmware 1.00

Anyone else had this experience ?

Adam · 02-10-2014, 01:07 PM

Have you tried formatting the card in camera since the issue started?

waterfall · 02-10-2014, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by RTFM

I have just bought a K-30 having just sold my K20d.
Initial impressions are very favourable.
The firmware the camera came with was 1.00 and looking at the Ricoh w/s there was a later version 1.05 so I did the upgrade. All went well, the upgrade was accepted.
The issue I am having is that If I take out the SDHC card to download images and put it back in the camera, sometimes the orange light down in the right corner on the back does not blink and I can't power up the K-30. The only solution I have found is to disconnect/reconnect the battery then all is well. This does not happen every time, maybe 1 in 10 times but it is irritatating.
I have not had the camera very long so I do not know if this was happening on the earlier firmware 1.00

Anyone else had this experience ?

Try formatting the card.

aremmes · 02-10-2014, 02:30 PM

And avoid ejecting the card from the computer without unmounting it first (right-click and Eject on Windows, drag the drive to the Trash on Macs), otherwise you run the risk of leaving the filesystem in an inconsistent state.

waterfall · 02-10-2014, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by aremmes

And avoid ejecting the card from the computer without unmounting it first (right-click and Eject on Windows, drag the drive to the Trash on Macs), otherwise you run the risk of leaving the filesystem in an inconsistent state.

With a Mac, you can also select Eject K30 from the File menu.

trevor2 · 02-10-2014, 06:11 PM

I've had the exact same problem, happens when I re-insert SD card or unplug USB cord from PC. I never "eject safely" but I make sure nothing is being written when I unplug. It's pretty annoying and makes me worry a bit when I turn the camera on and it's completely dead.

I don't know if the glitch is caused by the card filesystem being left in an inconsistent state as sometimes it comes right after a while without me needing to reinsert the battery. I'll have to see if I can get the glitch to occur after dismounting the drive before unplugging.

waterfall · 02-10-2014, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by trevor2

I've had the exact same problem, happens when I re-insert SD card or unplug USB cord from PC. I never "eject safely" but I make sure nothing is being written when I unplug. It's pretty annoying and makes me worry a bit when I turn the camera on and it's completely dead.

I don't know if the glitch is caused by the card filesystem being left in an inconsistent state as sometimes it comes right after a while without me needing to reinsert the battery. I'll have to see if I can get the glitch to occur after dismounting the drive before unplugging.

Eject any external hard drive storage before disconnecting or removing. This is "turning it off" before yanking the plug.

dansamy · 02-10-2014, 06:35 PM

Use eject safely. Also make sure that after you've deleted photos from your cards, format the card *in the camera* that you intend to use the card in. I don't format cards for my k5ii in my k-x or vice versa. The camera formats the card & sets up the file writing system in a manner optimized to its model. Also, turn your camera off & make sure the orange "card busy" light is off before ejecting the card from the camera.

RTFM · 02-11-2014, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by trevor2

I've had the exact same problem, happens when I re-insert SD card or unplug USB cord from PC. I never "eject safely" but I make sure nothing is being written when I unplug. It's pretty annoying and makes me worry a bit when I turn the camera on and it's completely dead.

I don't know if the glitch is caused by the card filesystem being left in an inconsistent state as sometimes it comes right after a while without me needing to reinsert the battery. I'll have to see if I can get the glitch to occur after dismounting the drive before unplugging.

Trevor2, how often does this happen to you ? Ironically mine hasn't done it again since I started this thread.

trevor2 · 02-11-2014, 02:52 PM

It happens about a quarter of the time I unplug it/reinsert card. Once it did it and I couldn't get it to come right so I put the battery on the charger for a few hours and then it worked. Might have to just needed time for the capacitors to discharge and reset the circuit though.

6BQ5 · 02-12-2014, 01:04 PM

Ejecting the card through your computer's operating system will ensure that any open files for reading/writing have been closed and that the file system is still intact. Also, be sure to "empty your trash" if you manually deleted your images. Emptying the trash / recycle bin will actually delete the files vs. making them invisible as if they were deleted.

I have never had problems with my SD card when I follow these best practices. Otherwise, if something is corrupted or not properly closed the camera may give you errors. Your only option at that point is format the SD card either in the camera or through your computer.

02-10-2014, 12:59 PM	#1
RTFM New Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 4	K-30 Glitch I have just bought a K-30 having just sold my K20d. Initial impressions are very favourable. The firmware the camera came with was 1.00 and looking at the Ricoh w/s there was a later version 1.05 so I did the upgrade. All went well, the upgrade was accepted. The issue I am having is that If I take out the SDHC card to download images and put it back in the camera, sometimes the orange light down in the right corner on the back does not blink and I can't power up the K-30. The only solution I have found is to disconnect/reconnect the battery then all is well. This does not happen every time, maybe 1 in 10 times but it is irritatating. I have not had the camera very long so I do not know if this was happening on the earlier firmware 1.00 Anyone else had this experience ?

02-10-2014, 01:07 PM	#2
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02-10-2014, 01:22 PM	#3
waterfall Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northern Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,812	Originally posted by RTFM I have just bought a K-30 having just sold my K20d. Initial impressions are very favourable. The firmware the camera came with was 1.00 and looking at the Ricoh w/s there was a later version 1.05 so I did the upgrade. All went well, the upgrade was accepted. The issue I am having is that If I take out the SDHC card to download images and put it back in the camera, sometimes the orange light down in the right corner on the back does not blink and I can't power up the K-30. The only solution I have found is to disconnect/reconnect the battery then all is well. This does not happen every time, maybe 1 in 10 times but it is irritatating. I have not had the camera very long so I do not know if this was happening on the earlier firmware 1.00 Anyone else had this experience ? Try formatting the card.

02-10-2014, 02:30 PM	#4
aremmes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Philadelphia Photos: Albums Posts: 217	And avoid ejecting the card from the computer without unmounting it first (right-click and Eject on Windows, drag the drive to the Trash on Macs), otherwise you run the risk of leaving the filesystem in an inconsistent state.

02-10-2014, 03:15 PM	#5
waterfall Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northern Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,812	Originally posted by aremmes And avoid ejecting the card from the computer without unmounting it first (right-click and Eject on Windows, drag the drive to the Trash on Macs), otherwise you run the risk of leaving the filesystem in an inconsistent state. With a Mac, you can also select Eject K30 from the File menu.

02-10-2014, 06:11 PM	#6
trevor2 Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 5	I've had the exact same problem, happens when I re-insert SD card or unplug USB cord from PC. I never "eject safely" but I make sure nothing is being written when I unplug. It's pretty annoying and makes me worry a bit when I turn the camera on and it's completely dead. I don't know if the glitch is caused by the card filesystem being left in an inconsistent state as sometimes it comes right after a while without me needing to reinsert the battery. I'll have to see if I can get the glitch to occur after dismounting the drive before unplugging.

02-10-2014, 06:31 PM	#7
waterfall Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northern Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,812	Originally posted by trevor2 I've had the exact same problem, happens when I re-insert SD card or unplug USB cord from PC. I never "eject safely" but I make sure nothing is being written when I unplug. It's pretty annoying and makes me worry a bit when I turn the camera on and it's completely dead. I don't know if the glitch is caused by the card filesystem being left in an inconsistent state as sometimes it comes right after a while without me needing to reinsert the battery. I'll have to see if I can get the glitch to occur after dismounting the drive before unplugging. Eject any external hard drive storage before disconnecting or removing. This is "turning it off" before yanking the plug.

02-10-2014, 06:35 PM	#8
dansamy Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,450	Use eject safely. Also make sure that after you've deleted photos from your cards, format the card in the camera that you intend to use the card in. I don't format cards for my k5ii in my k-x or vice versa. The camera formats the card & sets up the file writing system in a manner optimized to its model. Also, turn your camera off & make sure the orange "card busy" light is off before ejecting the card from the camera.

02-11-2014, 08:01 AM	#9
RTFM New Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 4 Original Poster	Originally posted by trevor2 I've had the exact same problem, happens when I re-insert SD card or unplug USB cord from PC. I never "eject safely" but I make sure nothing is being written when I unplug. It's pretty annoying and makes me worry a bit when I turn the camera on and it's completely dead. I don't know if the glitch is caused by the card filesystem being left in an inconsistent state as sometimes it comes right after a while without me needing to reinsert the battery. I'll have to see if I can get the glitch to occur after dismounting the drive before unplugging. Trevor2, how often does this happen to you ? Ironically mine hasn't done it again since I started this thread.

02-11-2014, 02:52 PM	#10
trevor2 Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 5	It happens about a quarter of the time I unplug it/reinsert card. Once it did it and I couldn't get it to come right so I put the battery on the charger for a few hours and then it worked. Might have to just needed time for the capacitors to discharge and reset the circuit though.

02-12-2014, 01:04 PM	#11
6BQ5 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Nevada, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,348	Ejecting the card through your computer's operating system will ensure that any open files for reading/writing have been closed and that the file system is still intact. Also, be sure to "empty your trash" if you manually deleted your images. Emptying the trash / recycle bin will actually delete the files vs. making them invisible as if they were deleted. I have never had problems with my SD card when I follow these best practices. Otherwise, if something is corrupted or not properly closed the camera may give you errors. Your only option at that point is format the SD card either in the camera or through your computer.