K-5 IIS and Yongnuo YN560-II

Noggin · 03-09-2014, 08:01 PM

I have the YN560 off camera on its little stand, it fires properly but the camera flash is still firing, I have tried a number of settings but think I am doing something wrong.

I am in Manual mode 1/160 shutter, auto Sigma 2.8 lens.

manacho2005 · 03-09-2014, 08:39 PM

As far as I know, that flash is only wireless as an optical slave or with a radio trigger. If you're using it as an optical slave, you need the camera flash to trigger the Yongnou. If you want REAL wireless PTTL, you would need either a Pentax, Metz, or Sigma Super flash, and have your pop up flash set as "control" instead of "master".
Hope someone chimes in if I'm missing something; I barely ever use a flash.

PANGU_yien · 03-09-2014, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Noggin

I have the YN560 off camera on its little stand, it fires properly but the camera flash is still firing, I have tried a number of settings but think I am doing something wrong.

I am in Manual mode 1/160 shutter, auto Sigma 2.8 lens.

If you don't have a set pf wireless triggers like the Cactus triggers, the only way to get that Yongnuo to flash off camera is as an optical slave. Since it will only fire when your on camera flash fires, you'll need to turn the on camera flash down to lowest output so that it won't contribute (much) to the exposure

Noggin · 03-09-2014, 10:01 PM

Ah ok I see now. I figured it would operate the same way as it when it is mounted on the camera.

Will have to save for another flash, any recommendations?

sterretje · 03-09-2014, 10:51 PM

Another Yongnuo? Or a set of radio triggers if you do not really need the flash itself.

jezza323 · 03-09-2014, 10:53 PM

you can use a wireless radio trigger to fire it, even the P-TTL flashes will fire the on camera flash, it just may not contribute much to the exposure (depending on settings) as it would likely be the controller for off camera flashes.

as already mentioned, you can just turn the on camera flash to its lowest setting such it contributes little, you could also bounce the on camera flash with a small card toward the off camera flash if you have enough hands. The card would block it from the scene, but still trigger the off camera.

**stevebrot** · 03-09-2014, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by manacho2005

If you want REAL wireless PTTL, you would need either a Pentax, Metz, or Sigma Super flash, and have your pop up flash set as "control" instead of "master".

I am not sure what you mean by REAL. With those flashes and that setup the off-camera flashes still use an optical trigger for wireless operation. What's more, even when set as control, the on-camera flash still contributes a small amount to the final image.

Steve

Adam G · 03-09-2014, 11:26 PM

Your flash will be fine. You just need a way to connect it to the camera, and it seems you don't want to use the optical slave, whereby your Yongnuo is triggered by another flash burst.

I bought one of these and am very happy with it:
FlashZebra Camera Hotshoe Adapter with 5 Meter Cord and Flash Hotshoe Adapter

You attach one end to your camera's hot shoe, and stick the other end on your stand, and mount the Yongnuo on top. It won't give you automatic metering, but if you are happy to experiment with manual mode, it will do the job very well.

manacho2005 · 03-10-2014, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

I am not sure what you mean by REAL

There is a wireless link for data to certain flashes to get features like HSS and trailing curtain.

03-09-2014, 08:01 PM	#1
Noggin New Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 21	K-5 IIS and Yongnuo YN560-II I have the YN560 off camera on its little stand, it fires properly but the camera flash is still firing, I have tried a number of settings but think I am doing something wrong. I am in Manual mode 1/160 shutter, auto Sigma 2.8 lens.

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03-09-2014, 08:39 PM	#2
manacho2005 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Red Oak, TX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 462	As far as I know, that flash is only wireless as an optical slave or with a radio trigger. If you're using it as an optical slave, you need the camera flash to trigger the Yongnou. If you want REAL wireless PTTL, you would need either a Pentax, Metz, or Sigma Super flash, and have your pop up flash set as "control" instead of "master". Hope someone chimes in if I'm missing something; I barely ever use a flash.

03-09-2014, 08:53 PM	#3
PANGU_yien Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Beijing Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 65	Originally posted by Noggin I have the YN560 off camera on its little stand, it fires properly but the camera flash is still firing, I have tried a number of settings but think I am doing something wrong. I am in Manual mode 1/160 shutter, auto Sigma 2.8 lens. If you don't have a set pf wireless triggers like the Cactus triggers, the only way to get that Yongnuo to flash off camera is as an optical slave. Since it will only fire when your on camera flash fires, you'll need to turn the on camera flash down to lowest output so that it won't contribute (much) to the exposure

03-09-2014, 10:01 PM	#4
Noggin New Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 21 Original Poster	Ah ok I see now. I figured it would operate the same way as it when it is mounted on the camera. Will have to save for another flash, any recommendations?

03-09-2014, 10:51 PM	#5
sterretje Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Roodepoort, South Africa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,561	Another Yongnuo? Or a set of radio triggers if you do not really need the flash itself.

03-09-2014, 10:53 PM	#6
jezza323 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,421	you can use a wireless radio trigger to fire it, even the P-TTL flashes will fire the on camera flash, it just may not contribute much to the exposure (depending on settings) as it would likely be the controller for off camera flashes. as already mentioned, you can just turn the on camera flash to its lowest setting such it contributes little, you could also bounce the on camera flash with a small card toward the off camera flash if you have enough hands. The card would block it from the scene, but still trigger the off camera.

03-09-2014, 10:57 PM	#7
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 39,133	Originally posted by manacho2005 If you want REAL wireless PTTL, you would need either a Pentax, Metz, or Sigma Super flash, and have your pop up flash set as "control" instead of "master". I am not sure what you mean by REAL. With those flashes and that setup the off-camera flashes still use an optical trigger for wireless operation. What's more, even when set as control, the on-camera flash still contributes a small amount to the final image. Steve

03-09-2014, 11:26 PM	#8
Adam G Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 140	Your flash will be fine. You just need a way to connect it to the camera, and it seems you don't want to use the optical slave, whereby your Yongnuo is triggered by another flash burst. I bought one of these and am very happy with it: FlashZebra Camera Hotshoe Adapter with 5 Meter Cord and Flash Hotshoe Adapter You attach one end to your camera's hot shoe, and stick the other end on your stand, and mount the Yongnuo on top. It won't give you automatic metering, but if you are happy to experiment with manual mode, it will do the job very well.

03-10-2014, 03:40 AM	#9
manacho2005 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Red Oak, TX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 462	Originally posted by stevebrot I am not sure what you mean by REAL There is a wireless link for data to certain flashes to get features like HSS and trailing curtain.

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