Bit confused on Pentax.

Zealex · 05-01-2014, 12:03 PM

My package should come today and while I'm excited maybe I should return it. The seller has 14 day return policy and I'm pretty sure if I don't open it I can send it back without paying for shipping.

I think maybe I should get the K-50 from Costco. $650 for the k-50, 18-55mm and 50-200mm lens...the biggest thing I want it for is the WR. I'm the type of person to get lost in woody areas and just explore. I'd also like to take the camera to the beach... I think I'd find myself wanting to get in some situations where the elements could threaten my camera. I can imagine the K-R being damaged by some sea water, sand grains, dirt, mud, and the rain. I'd hate to be stuck inside during the rain.

Or perhaps find something used...

But I don't think I really considered the effects of the elements in my purchase... and thank goodness I always buy things with a return policy lol

Do you think I could baby my K-R enough or perhaps should I consider WR?

I feel a little stupid for not really considering that...........and thank goodness I always buy things with a return policy!

**clackers** · 05-01-2014, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Zealex

I think maybe I should get the K-50 from Costco. $650 for the k-50, 18-55mm and 50-200mm lens...the biggest thing I want it for is the WR.

Are they the newer WR versions of those lenses, though?

Zealex · 05-01-2014, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by clackers

Are they the newer WR versions of those lenses, though?

Pentax K-50 2 Lens Weatherproof DSLR Bundle

I don't think so

**clackers** · 05-01-2014, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Zealex

Pentax K-50 2 Lens Weatherproof DSLR Bundle

I don't think so

The ad says they are, so if all-weather capability on a budget trumps other factors, that's the package to go for.

Btw, 'WR' doesn't mean 'airtight' or 'waterproof', so while on this forum you may encounter anecdotes of someone shooting during a tropical downpour, there are horror stories as well.

These are electonic devices with movable seals, not a separate gasket-lined external case, so common sense is needed.

Last edited by clackers; 05-01-2014 at 01:14 PM.

Zealex · 05-01-2014, 01:15 PM

I'm confused... Isn't the new lens the II's?? Haha

Other factors?? Wouldn't the body be better (not the best investment) and everything else except the 50-200mm?

**clackers** · 05-01-2014, 01:55 PM

Zealex, IMHO, less hand-wringing, more actual attempts at photography!

Make a decision, and remember that the body is just a vehicle for your lenses, and you'll upgrade it throughout your life if you come to love the hobby.

Zealex · 05-01-2014, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by clackers

Zealex, IMHO, less hand-wringing, more actual attempts at photography!

Make a decision, and remember that the body is just a vehicle for your lenses, and you'll upgrade it throughout your life if you come to love the hobby.

Of course haha but I don't want my K-r to get bricked either. if I'm careful I could take it to the beach or such without worry? What about a little rain? . And would humidity have any affect??

**clackers** · 05-01-2014, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by Zealex

Of course haha but I don't want my K-r to get bricked either. if I'm careful I could take it to the beach or such without worry? What about a little rain? . And would humidity have any affect??

Neither your K-r/K-50 or phone or MP3 player will disintegrate if a raindrop hits.

But do change lenses undercover!

Zealex · 05-01-2014, 02:46 PM

Yes haha but if a little rain won't damage the camera. To the point I'd have to wipe it off?

My K-r is home waiting for me... Up to me if I choose to open it

Zealex · 05-01-2014, 05:40 PM

Curious does camera value differ based upon its color?

DSims · 05-01-2014, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by Zealex

My K-r is home waiting for me... Up to me if I choose to open it

If you open it you'll end up liking it, so if you don't want to like it just leave it sitting there ...

Originally posted by Zealex

Curious does camera value differ based upon its color?

Colors other than black (or blue) are harder to sell.

Neither one's a bad choice. You'll be doing some upgrades down the road anyway.

I started with a non-WR DA18-55, a non-WR DA55-300, and an older body (K100D Super). Go to the camera store and buy a rain sleeve. And only a few drops of water will never hurt.

Or get the K-50 kit and splash through the puddles with it. It's up to you.

The K-r kit is more balanced if you're OK without WR, because you can go a while without wanting to upgrade either the body or the telephoto zoom. And the money savings will almost pay for the used DA16-45/4 or similar lens that you inevitably will want.

But either way you won't be "stuck," so don't worry about it. Now get out there and start taking some of these: http://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=60&lens=3820#/grid

Zealex · 05-01-2014, 07:16 PM

Yeah I opened it. Too bad I have to finish this English paper...

On the contrary, I might as well keep it because it was cheaper and if I wanna invest more...I now have more to spend on lenses!

I think I'll like the 55-300m more anyways.

My dad has an old Pentax flash... hope it fits/works!

Next camera will be a k-3 so I'll have WR eventually =P. Just need to find a buyer for my kidney.

---------- Post added 05-01-14 at 10:39 PM ----------

OP/TECH USA RAINSLEEVE- FLASH (Pack of 2) 9001142 B&H Photo

8 bucks for a plastic bag o_O

**interested_observer** · 05-01-2014, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Zealex

My dad has an old Pentax flash... hope it fits/works!

STOP!! - No!!!! Do NOT mount the flash!!!!!

A lot of the older flash units are NOT comparable with the newer bodies. The result could be damage to the body. Get the model number and post it here and ask for some guidance. I am not the expert - but others are.

Zealex · 05-01-2014, 07:49 PM

Yes no worries! I wasn't going to mount the flash until i looked it up to see if it was compatible.

Thanks for the warning though!

Aren't I supposed to charge the battery for 7 hours when I first get it or just charge it until it's done?

Additionally I'm finding cheap knock offs to serve as AA holders for my K-r...would these cause any damage to my camera? No way I'd pay 40 bucks for a battery holder...

---------- Post added 05-01-14 at 10:58 PM ----------

Originally posted by DSims

But either way you won't be "stuck," so don't worry about it. Now get out there and start taking some of these: PENTAX : Select a PENTAX interchangeable lens camera or a lens model

I was actually intending to take a lot of selfies instead :P

**TER-OR** · 05-02-2014, 05:40 AM

Use the Kr. Learn and grow. Worry about upgrading later. The Kr is a capable camera with a good sensor.

05-01-2014, 06:13 PM	#86
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by Zealex My K-r is home waiting for me... Up to me if I choose to open it If you open it you'll end up liking it, so if you don't want to like it just leave it sitting there ... Originally posted by Zealex Curious does camera value differ based upon its color? Colors other than black (or blue) are harder to sell. Neither one's a bad choice. You'll be doing some upgrades down the road anyway. I started with a non-WR DA18-55, a non-WR DA55-300, and an older body (K100D Super). Go to the camera store and buy a rain sleeve. And only a few drops of water will never hurt. Or get the K-50 kit and splash through the puddles with it. It's up to you. The K-r kit is more balanced if you're OK without WR, because you can go a while without wanting to upgrade either the body or the telephoto zoom. And the money savings will almost pay for the used DA16-45/4 or similar lens that you inevitably will want. But either way you won't be "stuck," so don't worry about it. Now get out there and start taking some of these: http://pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=60&lens=3820#/grid Last edited by DSims; 05-01-2014 at 06:33 PM.

05-01-2014, 07:16 PM	#87
Zealex Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 150 Original Poster	Yeah I opened it. Too bad I have to finish this English paper... On the contrary, I might as well keep it because it was cheaper and if I wanna invest more...I now have more to spend on lenses! I think I'll like the 55-300m more anyways. My dad has an old Pentax flash... hope it fits/works! Next camera will be a k-3 so I'll have WR eventually =P. Just need to find a buyer for my kidney. ---------- Post added 05-01-14 at 10:39 PM ---------- OP/TECH USA RAINSLEEVE- FLASH (Pack of 2) 9001142 B&H Photo 8 bucks for a plastic bag o_O Last edited by Zealex; 05-01-2014 at 07:23 PM.

05-01-2014, 07:49 PM	#89
Zealex Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 150 Original Poster	Yes no worries! I wasn't going to mount the flash until i looked it up to see if it was compatible. Thanks for the warning though! Aren't I supposed to charge the battery for 7 hours when I first get it or just charge it until it's done? Additionally I'm finding cheap knock offs to serve as AA holders for my K-r...would these cause any damage to my camera? No way I'd pay 40 bucks for a battery holder... ---------- Post added 05-01-14 at 10:58 PM ---------- Originally posted by DSims But either way you won't be "stuck," so don't worry about it. Now get out there and start taking some of these: PENTAX : Select a PENTAX interchangeable lens camera or a lens model I was actually intending to take a lot of selfies instead :P Last edited by Zealex; 05-01-2014 at 08:00 PM.

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05-01-2014, 12:03 PM	#76
Zealex Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 150 Original Poster	My package should come today and while I'm excited maybe I should return it. The seller has 14 day return policy and I'm pretty sure if I don't open it I can send it back without paying for shipping. I think maybe I should get the K-50 from Costco. $650 for the k-50, 18-55mm and 50-200mm lens...the biggest thing I want it for is the WR. I'm the type of person to get lost in woody areas and just explore. I'd also like to take the camera to the beach... I think I'd find myself wanting to get in some situations where the elements could threaten my camera. I can imagine the K-R being damaged by some sea water, sand grains, dirt, mud, and the rain. I'd hate to be stuck inside during the rain. Or perhaps find something used... But I don't think I really considered the effects of the elements in my purchase... and thank goodness I always buy things with a return policy lol Do you think I could baby my K-R enough or perhaps should I consider WR? I feel a little stupid for not really considering that...........and thank goodness I always buy things with a return policy!

05-01-2014, 12:51 PM	#77
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Zealex I think maybe I should get the K-50 from Costco. $650 for the k-50, 18-55mm and 50-200mm lens...the biggest thing I want it for is the WR. Are they the newer WR versions of those lenses, though?

05-01-2014, 12:56 PM	#78
Zealex Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 150 Original Poster	Originally posted by clackers Are they the newer WR versions of those lenses, though? Pentax K-50 2 Lens Weatherproof DSLR Bundle I don't think so

05-01-2014, 01:02 PM	#79
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Zealex Pentax K-50 2 Lens Weatherproof DSLR Bundle I don't think so The ad says they are, so if all-weather capability on a budget trumps other factors, that's the package to go for. Btw, 'WR' doesn't mean 'airtight' or 'waterproof', so while on this forum you may encounter anecdotes of someone shooting during a tropical downpour, there are horror stories as well. These are electonic devices with movable seals, not a separate gasket-lined external case, so common sense is needed. Last edited by clackers; 05-01-2014 at 01:14 PM.

05-01-2014, 01:15 PM	#80
Zealex Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 150 Original Poster	I'm confused... Isn't the new lens the II's?? Haha Other factors?? Wouldn't the body be better (not the best investment) and everything else except the 50-200mm?

05-01-2014, 01:55 PM	#81
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Zealex, IMHO, less hand-wringing, more actual attempts at photography! Make a decision, and remember that the body is just a vehicle for your lenses, and you'll upgrade it throughout your life if you come to love the hobby.

05-01-2014, 02:07 PM	#82
Zealex Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 150 Original Poster	Originally posted by clackers Zealex, IMHO, less hand-wringing, more actual attempts at photography! Make a decision, and remember that the body is just a vehicle for your lenses, and you'll upgrade it throughout your life if you come to love the hobby. Of course haha but I don't want my K-r to get bricked either. if I'm careful I could take it to the beach or such without worry? What about a little rain? . And would humidity have any affect??

05-01-2014, 02:34 PM	#83
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by Zealex Of course haha but I don't want my K-r to get bricked either. if I'm careful I could take it to the beach or such without worry? What about a little rain? . And would humidity have any affect?? Neither your K-r/K-50 or phone or MP3 player will disintegrate if a raindrop hits. But do change lenses undercover!

05-01-2014, 02:46 PM	#84
Zealex Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 150 Original Poster	Yes haha but if a little rain won't damage the camera. To the point I'd have to wipe it off? My K-r is home waiting for me... Up to me if I choose to open it

05-01-2014, 05:40 PM	#85
Zealex Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 150 Original Poster	Curious does camera value differ based upon its color?

05-01-2014, 07:43 PM	#88
interested_observer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tumbleweed, Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,707	Originally posted by Zealex My dad has an old Pentax flash... hope it fits/works! STOP!! - No!!!! Do NOT mount the flash!!!!! A lot of the older flash units are *NOT* comparable with the newer bodies. The result could be damage to the body. Get the model number and post it here and ask for some guidance. I am not the expert - but others are.

05-02-2014, 05:40 AM	#90
TER-OR Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dundee, IL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,699	Use the Kr. Learn and grow. Worry about upgrading later. The Kr is a capable camera with a good sensor.