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06-17-2014, 02:55 PM   #1
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Hi Friends, I was thinking about buying my first Pentax (the K-30) and skipping the kit lens. I'm planning to get the 50mm f/1.8 along with another prime to bring on my travels. Which lens would be better for general travel and landscapes? The 35mm f/2.4 or the 28mm f/2.8? My dad recommended me the 28mm since he said that it would give me a wider range of focal lengths, but I've heard a lot of good things from the 35mm. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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QuoteOriginally posted by christiantypet Quote
Hi Friends, I was thinking about buying my first Pentax (the K-30) and skipping the kit lens. I'm planning to get the 50mm f/1.8 along with another prime to bring on my travels. Which lens would be better for general travel and landscapes? The 35mm f/2.4 or the 28mm f/2.8? My dad recommended me the 28mm since he said that it would give me a wider range of focal lengths, but I've heard a lot of good things from the 35mm. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I would start with the 35mm, as it corresponds to the "normal" field of view offered by a 50mm on film. You might find the 50mm F1.8 a bit long for everyday shots, though it does shine at close-ups and portraits.

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Personally I prefer 28mm over 35mm on APS-C but that's just me. However keep in mind Pentax does not currently have a 28mm lens in production, so you will need to get either an FA or F 28mm on the used market.

If you are going with new then the DA 50mm and the DA 35mm will make a good combination, though your dad is right 28mm would spread things a bit.

I think a lot of people would be very happy if Pentax produced a DA 28 (or 24mm) to complement the existing DA prime line.
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The 35mm f/2.4 is an extremely good 'normal' lens for the price. If you want wide angle, I'd look into the Rokinon 14mm f/2.8. Truly an outstanding lens. And, both are FF compatible.

28mm gives a rather boring field of view on APS-C, IMO. Your dad is probably used to 35mm film, where a 28mm lens is more useful.

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QuoteOriginally posted by christiantypet Quote
Which lens would be better for general travel and landscapes?
I shoot outdoor and I travel often. When travelling, my most used primes are (in order):
1) Voigtlander Nokton 58mm f1.4
2) Pentax FA31mm f1.8
3) Pentax FA77mm f1.8

If I need to travel with one lens only and a prime, I tend to prefer the VL58mm but the FA31mm is not far.

In practice, my most versatile system is an all-around-zoom lens (DA18-250mm) mounted on the camera and a prime in my pocket. All the above primes are small and fit well. In that case, my VL58mm is the most used prime by far.

Your budget might not allow you the above lenses, but the selection of focal length will be relevant to your selection IMO.

Hope that the comment may help.
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Hello christiantypet, welcome to the Forum!
Starting out with primes is a great way to learn, but you do sacrifice the versatility of a zoom. I am a big fan of the DA 35mm f/2.4AL, use it all the time, in fact.
However, even with that wider angle of view (compared to the fifty) you'll soon be looking for something wider, and you may regret not having a lens like the kit zoom, just for those occasions.
But, it may work out better this way. With the 35 and fifty covered, you can now narrow the next potential purchase to an 18-35mm or thereabouts, not needing the longer end because of your primes. Or, possibly a 10-20mm zoom, a 24mm prime, you get the idea.
Which means you'll eventually bypass the kit lens, not a bad thing if you value better glass above convenience.
Same thing at the long end. Instead of thinking about a 50-200mm, maybe a 100-300mm would work as well.
When you throw legacy primes into the mix, things really get interesting.
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24mm would make even more sense. The FA*24/2 is one of my most used lenses, but it costs substantially more. Nevertheless, combining 24mm, an f/2 aperture, and AF is very useful. The A24/2.8 is also excellent but it lacks AF.

The DA35/2.4 is a better lens then the FA28/2.8 in many ways. The FA28 is very good and I prefer the Focal Length for walking around. The F28/2.8 is almost as good (I've had both) and you may find it cheaper (a few people even prefer it over the FA28).


What I'd actually recommend is the F24-50/4, although It's somewhat hard to find. The A24-50/4 is the same, but without AF. They take nice photos.

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You can never go too wide :-)

A general rule is to double the focal lengths of your lenses. However, the millimeter really counts as you get wider.

I would recommend the 15. Small, excellent IQ, wide enough for town shots. 35 is sort of close to 50, so for something in the middle I would do a 24 or 28 - or in my case a 30 :-)

I sometimes take a 15, 30, and 90 macro for the day, which makes a workable set.

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My current three lens kit.

FA 100 2.8 Macro, My favorite lens.
FA 50 1.4, replacing F 50 1.7
FA 28 2.8
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What a great IQ, low price combo the 50 1.8 and 35 2.4 make.


When you have the cash, the DA15 and DA70 would then go nicely in your bag o' primes to increase your reach. :-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by SpecialK Quote
You can never go too wide :-)

A general rule is to double the focal lengths of your lenses. However, the millimeter really counts as you get wider.

I would recommend the 15. Small, excellent IQ, wide enough for town shots. 35 is sort of close to 50, so for something in the middle I would do a 24 or 28 - or in my case a 30 :-)

I sometimes take a 15, 30, and 90 macro for the day, which makes a workable set.
I'll go with Kyle on this one with a small variance. DA 15, 40 or F50 1.7, and Tamron 90 macro. Fill the gap as all have mentioned with your preference. 15,40, and 50 take up very little space.
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I'll chime in with K|17, A|24 and the coming-real-soon DA40 Limited (all f/2.8) as my most-common triplet, unless closeups were likely and justify the A|50/2.8 1:2 macro coming along (though likely as a fourth lens). Going along with the double-FL routine I then have Tak 105, M|200 and the out-of-step big ol' Tak 300. All manual except for the Limited.

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i think to pair with the 50mm, the da21 would be ideal. the 35mm is a little too close to the 50mm
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Another +1 for the 15mm!
I got the 15 & 40 XS. The two super sharp lenses fit into one little pouch. It's amazing how lightweight they are.
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QuoteOriginally posted by OregonJim Quote
28mm gives a rather boring field of view on APS-C, IMO. Your dad is probably used to 35mm film, where a 28mm lens is more useful.
Depends on your habits.

Obviously, tenths of millions of users thought otherwise, as most of the P&S of the film era had focal length of 35-40mm.
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