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06-30-2014, 05:17 AM   #16
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They trained me out of doing that in school. My instructor would have said, if you're not shooting at 1/30 you're not getting the most out of your camera. And he encouraged us to develop the technique to be able to do 1/15 hand held, with no SR.. High ISO means less dynamic range, in anything but a 645z, A7s or D4s. And all those camera cost some coin.

But hey, if what you get meets your needs.... more power to you, I'm just saying there are different ways to think about that.

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I've always done available light work since the 1960s without shake reduction, often using 1/15th on 50 & 35mm lenses on film. If an 11x14 print looks good, that's good enough for me.
While I still shoot a lot of film, my main digital is Leica M9 - no shake reduction. However, I primarily use lenses from 21 to 90mm, f1.4 to 2.8. No zooms.
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QuoteOriginally posted by TomB_tx Quote
While I still shoot a lot of film, my main digital is Leica M9 - no shake reduction.
rangefinder cameras can typically be hand held at a 1 stop lower shutter speed than an SLR can - that mirror has a lot of mass.
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Have you tried using one of the DIY string tripods? This would allow you to apply a little downward tension similar to more weight. There are pictures at this website showing how to make one.

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Tim,

Thank you for the suggestion. I have tried something similar attaching a thin cord to a QR plate rather than an eye-bolt. I used it for about a couple hundred shots.

I felt I was trying to keep the cord taut rather than holding the camera still. My results were poor and did not improve with practice.

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QuoteOriginally posted by lmd91343 Quote
Tim,

Thank you for the suggestion. I have tried something similar attaching a thin cord to a QR plate rather than an eye-bolt. I used it for about a couple hundred shots.

I felt I was trying to keep the cord taut rather than holding the camera still. My results were poor and did not improve with practice.

Thank you ,
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Have you tried it with thin nylon rope? The material is very stretchy and I find it pretty easy to keep tension on the camera while having enough freedom to adjust the camera height or even orientation.

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Have you tried it with thin nylon rope? The material is very stretchy and I find it pretty easy to keep tension on the camera while having enough freedom to adjust the camera height or even orientation.

Tim
I used a 1/2" wide dog lead with the snap buckle attached to a Manfrotto RC2 3157 QR plate thumb screw loop. I have held the handle end under my foot, pulling against it with the camera. I have also tried it looped under my foot pulling the lead taut with my left hand while also cradling the lens with my hand.
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Have you tried using one of the DIY string tripods? This would allow you to apply a little downward tension similar to more weight. There are pictures at this website showing how to make one.

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What a great idea--thanks!
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I have steady hands but SR helps a ton in low light when I don't have or can't use a tripod.

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Thanks for all the honest and useful replies. This really helps me out, and I appreciate it.
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I guess I would just add that I really like the in body stabilization as compared to in len stabilization. Lenses like the DA limiteds/FA limiteds would be significantly larger if you stuck image stabilization in them, whereas they are tiny in Pentax.
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Absolutely! I feel positively braver taking shots all the way down to 1/10th. Even if it's not perfect it's a lot better than if I didn't have SR.
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Yes, that plus my 31mm f/1.8 have revolutionized my ability to take photographs in museums-- especially poorly-lit museums that won't allow you to use either a tripod or a flash. I can now get absolutely passable shots in extremely dimly-lit conditions.
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I'm a little confused by many of the posts here.. the way I read the OP is that they were asking if SR can help if you have tremors or shaky hands. Not just if SR helps in low light or with lower shutter times in general.
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Check the first post in this thread https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/130-lens-sample-photo-archive/164135-pent...ml#post1700096

I use shake reduction all the time. Long lenses to get otherwise unobtainable shots.

I use it in old churches where tripods are not allowed, I use it when ever I need it

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When I use manual lenses on Canon without camera shake reduction handheld, then use the same lens on Pentax with shake reduction- yes, I feel the difference.
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