K-r shake reduction in RAW format

**timmijo** · 10-12-2014, 03:04 PM

Hello. My daughter is using my K-r for college classes and is being taught to shoot in RAW from the get-go. She does not have shake reduction on; in fact, the option didn't seem available when she pressed the info button last night. We were in a hurry, so I didn't have a chance to check her settings.

The instructor told them to shoot RAW, Dng, manual exposure, manual focus, set your own aperture, shutter speed, and ISO. She is shooting a lot in her dimly-lit dormitory room and says she has to push the ISO to 3200 to get a decent shot.

I don't shoot in RAW much, so I am not sure, but why is shake reduction not available with the above settings? What did I miss?

Adam · 10-12-2014, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by timmijo

I don't shoot in RAW much, so I am not sure, but why is shake reduction not available with the above settings? What did I miss?

It should be available. Is she using the self-timer mode or something like that? If she's using a manual lens, the focal length should be set first via the menu/at startup.

Na Horuk · 10-12-2014, 03:28 PM

Hello. The SR function can be limited, for example if timer is used, or if a manual lens is mounted and the focal length wasn't entered (should be entered as on the lens, no calculations. Nearest wider should be used, if the exact number is not available) and maybe some other choices. Best bet is to look in the Manual. The manual can also be found as a pdf online, which is great as you can put it on a smartphone, use the "search" function, highlight things,...
In dim conditions, there are a number of tools that can help. First one is a tripod and using timer (2 sec timer has automatic mirror lockup, so there are as few vibrations as possible from button pressing and mirror movement). On a tripod, SR should be disabled, because if the tripod is stable, there should be no vibrations for the SR to eliminate, so it can in fact introduce blur. Other things that can be used is a spotlight or flashes with triggers. These days, some triggers can be found for well under 50 Euro. Even flashes are not as expensive anymore. Made in China, might not last forever, but its a great learning tool.

stevebrot · 10-12-2014, 05:50 PM

Try menu/record mode 4/

Link to camera manual:

http://c2b6d376b97bcc466063-5420c200a1f030d1394a9548df6eadbd.r5.cf2.rackcdn....n_official.pdf

Steve

**timmijo** · 10-12-2014, 05:51 PM

Thanks for the replies; I forgot to mention that she is using the kit lens, the 18-55 DA weather resistant version. That is her only lens. I tried to explain to her how a camera naturally needs light in order to make a good photo; she is coming from using pocket-sized point-and-shoots using total automation.

Huge learning curve.

Maybe she had some unusual setting that "greyed out" the shake reduction hand icon. She has the paper manual with her; I have downloaded the PDF so that I can guide her via text messages (neither of us has a smartphone). Thanks again, everyone.

Aksel · 10-13-2014, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by timmijo

...
Maybe she had some unusual setting that "greyed out" the shake reduction hand icon. ...

HDR turns SR on or off. See page 210 in english manual.

K-r manual

10-12-2014, 03:04 PM	#1
timmijo Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Delaware Photos: Gallery Posts: 239	K-r shake reduction in RAW format Hello. My daughter is using my K-r for college classes and is being taught to shoot in RAW from the get-go. She does not have shake reduction on; in fact, the option didn't seem available when she pressed the info button last night. We were in a hurry, so I didn't have a chance to check her settings. The instructor told them to shoot RAW, Dng, manual exposure, manual focus, set your own aperture, shutter speed, and ISO. She is shooting a lot in her dimly-lit dormitory room and says she has to push the ISO to 3200 to get a decent shot. I don't shoot in RAW much, so I am not sure, but why is shake reduction not available with the above settings? What did I miss?

10-12-2014, 03:06 PM	#2
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,608	Originally posted by timmijo I don't shoot in RAW much, so I am not sure, but why is shake reduction not available with the above settings? What did I miss? It should be available. Is she using the self-timer mode or something like that? If she's using a manual lens, the focal length should be set first via the menu/at startup. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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10-12-2014, 03:28 PM	#3
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Hello. The SR function can be limited, for example if timer is used, or if a manual lens is mounted and the focal length wasn't entered (should be entered as on the lens, no calculations. Nearest wider should be used, if the exact number is not available) and maybe some other choices. Best bet is to look in the Manual. The manual can also be found as a pdf online, which is great as you can put it on a smartphone, use the "search" function, highlight things,... In dim conditions, there are a number of tools that can help. First one is a tripod and using timer (2 sec timer has automatic mirror lockup, so there are as few vibrations as possible from button pressing and mirror movement). On a tripod, SR should be disabled, because if the tripod is stable, there should be no vibrations for the SR to eliminate, so it can in fact introduce blur. Other things that can be used is a spotlight or flashes with triggers. These days, some triggers can be found for well under 50 Euro. Even flashes are not as expensive anymore. Made in China, might not last forever, but its a great learning tool.

10-12-2014, 05:50 PM	#4
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Try menu/record mode 4/ Link to camera manual: http://c2b6d376b97bcc466063-5420c200a1f030d1394a9548df6eadbd.r5.cf2.rackcdn....n_official.pdf Steve

10-12-2014, 05:51 PM	#5
timmijo Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Delaware Photos: Gallery Posts: 239 Original Poster	Thanks for the replies; I forgot to mention that she is using the kit lens, the 18-55 DA weather resistant version. That is her only lens. I tried to explain to her how a camera naturally needs light in order to make a good photo; she is coming from using pocket-sized point-and-shoots using total automation. Huge learning curve. Maybe she had some unusual setting that "greyed out" the shake reduction hand icon. She has the paper manual with her; I have downloaded the PDF so that I can guide her via text messages (neither of us has a smartphone). Thanks again, everyone.

10-13-2014, 03:47 AM	#6
Aksel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 224	Originally posted by timmijo ... Maybe she had some unusual setting that "greyed out" the shake reduction hand icon. ... HDR turns SR on or off. See page 210 in english manual. K-r manual