Originally posted by monochrome Use a copipod with a lens plate to match the filter ring diameter of your lens (49mm or 52mm) instead of a tripod.
K10D = $250 - maximum
M50/1.7 = $50 (that lens was designed for copy work - precisely what you are doing
Copipod = $50 (you'll need to find one)
Any light source will do, even a desk lamp - just adjust the white balance in camera.
Plan to use the highest jpeg quality and crop, or shoot RAW and crop the developed file.
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Pentax Copipod Images Oh, that's really cool. I had no idea a copipod was a thing, but now that I've seen them, I can imagine all sorts of things one would be useful for.
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Originally posted by BrianR I'd also look at a P&S + little tripod + a couple clip on lights. It depends on the working conditions though, are these circuit boards in place or move able to a bench? Just how much detail do you need to be able to pull out to tell if the soldering is good? Would what's shown in your example be enough or does it need to be larger?
This is a great example of the angle and the level of detail that he'd need. If he could take a picture like that, that would be great. He can move the boards to a bench and set up a small amount of lighting if need be. There are also decently bright flourescent lights mounted above the benches.
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Originally posted by Michael Barker Considering the whole workflow, one thing to consider might be whether you can tether the camera to your choice of workstation, whether it be wirelessly to a tablet, or wired to a PC. Tethering speeds up the workflow. Having seen the convenience of this in a studio, I could see it made sense; you have the photo open in your editor, Photoshop or whatever, instantly as soon as you've clicked the shutter.
Tethering is probably more trouble than it's worth. A camera with a built-in display would be much better.
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Originally posted by bladerunner6 Do you have a source for the Sigma 28-80 macro for less than $40? The only used places I'm familiar with are KEH and the used departments at Adorama and B&H. I don't think he can just buy a lens off of Ebay...
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Originally posted by bladerunner6 I just looked at KEH.com and they have the lens for as little as $25 and the K200D for $218.
That even leaves some money for a flash.
But I also like the suggestion for the K100D.
That is even as inexpensive as $109.
Ah, whoops, forget what I said earlier!
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Originally posted by dcshooter I'd strongly suggest avoiding the K100D or K200D since they have no live view. Something with live view and an articulated screen would be much easier to use in this kind of scenario where the lighting might be poor and focus difficult to nail.
Definitely yes to a camera with liveview!
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Originally posted by wombat2go If aps-c or 35mm camera, a longer macro lens might be easier because the lens is further away.
Here is the SMC Pentax -M Dental Macro 1:4 100mm at about 1:5 and about 300mm away.
A macro lens with close up attachemnts would add versatility and magnification whwn needed.
Sound like a camera that can run tethered to a computer would be really useful.
So, your picture is basically the same level of detail he can get with his point-and-shoot. What would really be nice would be a detail shot of the chip that says SAMSUNG, but at an angle, so he could see whether the pins were touching the solder.
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Originally posted by BrianR The k100d is great, and they're available cheap. Batteries can be frustrating, eneloops + smart charger are basically a must, or get an ac/dc adapter if you're able to set everything up on a bench/copystand.
Definitely. A copipod thinger like monochrome linked to and some fixed lights would be perfect for speed and consistency if the parts can be moved
D'oh, I took my time making an example, you beat me to the punch by far
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Here's mine anyway, k100d, one of these:
Super-Multi-Coated MACRO-TAKUMAR 100mm F4 Macro Reviews - M42 Screwmount Telephoto Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database set to minimum focus distance (getting 0.5x magnification to the sensor), 4 second exposure, iso200, f/11. Inset in the top left is a 100% crop for an idea of what you'd see blown up on your monitor. Small marks on the ruler are mm. Tripod, window light, and a 2 second timer were used. Cheap extension tubes will get you closer, fixed lights would be easier for consistency. Hairs all over your electronics are free.
That close-up image is a good example of the kind of detail he's looking for-- he'd just want it to be at an angle.
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Anyway, thank you all SO MUCH for going to all this trouble on our behalf! We just wish we had been better able to articulate what he was going for at the very beginning.
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Originally posted by drypenn Reverse mounted: Mounting the lens in reverse, i.e. the filter ring (front) gets attached to the camera via a reverse ring adapter (a lot in ebay). Advantages: cheap, greater than 1:1 magnification. Disdadvantages: a bit awkward, you'll need a lens with an aperture ring (most old lenses will have one) to adjust the aperture.
Subject platform: think of it as a stage, where you will place your subject.
Rail: instead of directly mounting your cam to the tripod, you mount it to the rail, then mount the rail to tripod. A rail facilitates and allows minute focus adjustments. Without a rail, you'll have to move the entire tripod and all to get the correct focus..
Thanks! I think we can safely say that reverse-mounting a lens is more trouble than he'd want to go to.