Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
05-31-2015, 05:32 PM   #1
Site Supporter
wolfdog's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Iowa
Posts: 27
what did I do wrong here

Where did I go wrong here?
Help Please

Attached Images
View Picture EXIF
PENTAX K-50  Photo 
05-31-2015, 05:36 PM - 1 Like   #2
Administrator
Site Webmaster
Adam's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Arizona
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 43,114
Much too slow shutter speed. You want to be in the 1/200s or faster range for hand-held shots at that focal length.

Adam
PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide | Site Help | My Photography)



PentaxForums.com's high server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover those costs by donating. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

05-31-2015, 05:40 PM   #3
Site Supporter




Join Date: May 2014
Location: Minnesota
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 1,369
Could be that the AF focused on the grass instead of the critters.
05-31-2015, 05:53 PM - 1 Like   #4
Moderator
Site Supporter
photolady95's Avatar

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cruising PentaxForums and watching your back.
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 9,652
Animals move, a faster shutter speed would have made them in focus. The consensus is, 1.5 times your focal length. So your lens is 320mm, you should have had your shutter speed at, at least, 500. At least that's how I shoot with my 300mm.

I don't think the AF focused on the grass either, because none is in focus.

05-31-2015, 05:56 PM   #5
Pentaxian
aleonx3's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brampton, Ontario
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 3,888
Looks like front focus to me or shutter speed too low with shaky hands
05-31-2015, 06:07 PM   #6
Pentaxian
noelpolar's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Goolwa, SA
Posts: 3,073
Shutter speed as a starting point for sure.....I would have traded off some aperture and ISO to get at least to 1/100 or more given the light.....say Iso800 or 1600 even.....and F5.6....even then 1/100 requires good technique at that focal length etc.....maybe a 5 shot burst to get one keeper....or higher shutter speed again.

On a side note.....this could be considered a nice shot........one almost needs to define what success would have looked like given the situation and equipment used......for example......"hey there were 3 strange critters in our back yard a few minutes ago.....I got a shot of them......have a look"...... this shot serves that purpose well. However you need to finish mowing the lawn in that case......my wife reckons.....

Last edited by noelpolar; 05-31-2015 at 06:18 PM.
05-31-2015, 06:47 PM   #7
Pentaxian




Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Photos: Albums
Posts: 658
I am actually impressed with how well it turned out due to the fact you had 1/25 sec shutter at 320mm. Follow the others advice mentioned and use the same camera holding technique you did there and you should get a better shot.
05-31-2015, 07:26 PM   #8
Site Supporter
wolfdog's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Iowa
Posts: 27
Original Poster
Thanks for all the help. I think I shot this in AV, I thought the camera picked the shutter speed on that? I am learning,I hope It helps with all the help on this site.

Thanks again
Mike

---------- Post added 05-31-15 at 09:30 PM ----------

Oh I forgot ,picture was taken in the state park near my town. they used to keep everything mowed but now they only mow a little bit,state says they don't have the money to keep it up.
Mike

05-31-2015, 07:32 PM   #9
Pentaxian
paulh's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: DFW Texas
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 13,850
QuoteOriginally posted by wolfdog Quote
I think I shot this in AV, I thought the camera picked the shutter speed on that?
It does, based on the ISO and aperture you chose. To get a faster shutter speed, you'll have to increase ISO or use a wider (larger) aperture, or combination of both. Experiment!
05-31-2015, 07:32 PM   #10
Loyal Site Supporter
Bruce Clark's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Brookfield, Victoria
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 3,768
I agree with the general opinion the shutter speed is too low. Issues with both camera movement and subject movement probably the major culprits. I like to shoot in TaV mode a lot setting a high shutter speed and middle range aperture (f8 @1/500) and let ISO settle where it wants. Sure it may result in some noise but a) some noise is tolerable if rest of the parameters are good and b) it can be dealt with if excessive.

A multiple burst of shots could also produce a sharper image. I often find the second or third sharper than the first.

Another thing, it may be me or my monitor but it looks a bit over-saturated to me. Perhaps I am not so used to grass so green in this part of the world.
05-31-2015, 07:47 PM   #11
Site Supporter
jpzk's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Québec
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,255
QuoteOriginally posted by hjoseph7 Quote
Could be that the AF focused on the grass instead of the critters.
QuoteOriginally posted by aleonx3 Quote
Looks like front focus to me or shutter speed too low with shaky hands
Everything is OOF .... no front/back focus problem here: slow shutter speed is likely the culprit as mentioned by others above.

JP
05-31-2015, 08:47 PM   #12
Site Supporter
Billk's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Posts: 223
QuoteOriginally posted by stillshot2 Quote
I am actually impressed with how well it turned out due to the fact you had 1/25 sec shutter at 320mm. Follow the others advice mentioned and use the same camera holding technique you did there and you should get a better shot.

I agree with stillshot. Good work in the circumstances.


Even if you were on a tripod or a monopod 1/25s is way to slow for anything but still subjects. Use a minimum of 1/250s on a tripod for that lens and 1/500s for hand-held.


For a critter shot like this I would suggest using centre point auto focus and get it over one of your main critter's eyes. Then crop later to get your main critter away from the centre of the photo. (I usually use a golden ratio or golden spiral template for positioning subjects in the crop.) http://digital-photography-school.com/divine-composition-with-fibonaccis-rat...s-on-steroids/




---------- Post added 05-31-15 at 08:53 PM ----------

QuoteOriginally posted by wolfdog Quote
Thanks for all the help. I think I shot this in AV, I thought the camera picked the shutter speed on that? I am learning,I hope It helps with all the help on this site.

Thanks again
Mike

---------- Post added 05-31-15 at 09:30 PM ----------

Oh I forgot ,picture was taken in the state park near my town. they used to keep everything mowed but now they only mow a little bit,state says they don't have the money to keep it up.
Mike


TAv mode is the bomb for this kind of photo. You set the shutter speed with the front dial, the aperture with the back dial and the camera sets the ISO.
05-31-2015, 08:55 PM   #13
Pentaxian




Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Photos: Albums
Posts: 658
You should use try using manual mode, where you pick your minimum desired shutter speed, your desired aperture, and then if the meter shows underexposed you can set the iso to auto and also set a limit for maximum allowed iso used too. I find this gives the best controlled results if you still want some kind of automation.
06-01-2015, 01:57 AM   #14
Pentaxian
Fogel70's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Photos: Albums
Posts: 1,748
QuoteOriginally posted by wolfdog Quote
Thanks for all the help. I think I shot this in AV, I thought the camera picked the shutter speed on that? I am learning,I hope It helps with all the help on this site.

Thanks again
Mike
If you set ISO manually, the camera can only set the shutter speed that get the image correctly exposed based on what you set the aperture and ISO to.
For the camera to set the shutter speed based on focal length used (to avoid blurry images) , it also has to be able to control ISO (auto ISO) if using Av mode.
06-01-2015, 05:45 AM   #15
Loyal Site Supporter
Rupert's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Texas
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 25,002
QuoteOriginally posted by Billk Quote
TAv mode is the bomb for this kind of photo. You set the shutter speed with the front dial, the aperture with the back dial and the camera sets the ISO.
Absolutely! TAv will let you shoot in most any light and depending on your subject, you set the speed and aperture and the camera sets the ISO.
All of the shots here are TAv.....in varying light at varying speeds.......most are at or near 500mm. I find that 1/200 is a good place to shoot birds and squirrels.....if the light is good you can move ahead to 1/250, which will most often get a decent shot if the movement of the subject is minimal.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129469263@N03/sets/72157651162955781


If you have lazy squirrels, you might get by with 1/15...as I did here!


Regards! Long live TAv! It is wonderful!
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
camera, centre, critique, help, mike, pentax help, photography, pm, shot, shutter, thanks, tripod, troubleshooting
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What did I do wrong? Esky Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 17 07-20-2013 01:17 PM
WHAT DID I DO WRONG? Camera wouldnt power off! SelfEmployedDebtFree Pentax DSLR Discussion 4 06-16-2013 12:53 PM
What did I do wrong? dannyial Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 5 07-05-2011 09:23 PM
What did I do wrong? Allan Photographic Technique 19 04-24-2008 01:37 PM
What did I do wrong??? dingnecros Pentax DSLR Discussion 16 07-11-2007 11:00 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:11 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top