CPC 2x KR shows F--, grounding?

**UncleVanya** · 08-29-2015, 03:58 PM

I got a cheap 2x tele on eBay intending to make a smart extension tube. It appears to have the right contacts. But when mounted to my camera and lens I get F--, which sucks.

It was advertised as KA but while similar to this one: CPC 2X it is labeled "MC KR" not "MC-4 PKA".

It arrived with bent aperture actuator ( easy fix ) and contacts look good and in the right place. However it has a black painted mount - so I'm suspecting grounding failure. How can I easily check that?

Not a Number · 08-29-2015, 04:09 PM

The "R" would indicate it is for a Ricoh camera. I'm not sure about the pin comparability between Ricoh and Pentax "A". Does the "A" pin protrude more than the other pins? Otherwise try a bit of metal foil over the data pin on the camera mount side.

**UncleVanya** · 08-29-2015, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

The "R" would indicate it is for a Ricoh camera. I'm not sure about the pin comparability between Ricoh and Pentax "A". Does the "A" pin protrude more than the other pins? Otherwise try a bit of metal foil over the data pin on the camera mount side.

Which one is the data pin? I can't recall - I guess I will go look it up. There is no Ricoh "pin" on the converter. I'm not sure what the Ricoh pin out is from that era.

---------- Post added 08-29-15 at 09:50 PM ----------

Pictures

Above my fingernail is what I think is the Ricoh Pin. It is very sloped and easy to push in and caused no problem on my K3 today. Notice also that the 3th pin from the left? is the highest.

Not a Number · 08-29-2015, 08:02 PM

The data pin would be the 7th pin going clockwise on your second picture.

It looks like the "A" pins are recessed and protruding as they should. Try cleaning the contacts. If you have a multi-meter or continuity checker test each pin to see if they are conducting. Could be dirty or the springs on the pins are unseated so no electrical continuity. The pins look clean in the photo but a slight film of oil or grease could block the signal.

The TC has a Ricoh pin but it is well rounded so should cause no problems. I've never had a problem with my Vivitar 2x Macro focusing TC which also has a similar Ricoh pin.

08-29-2015, 03:58 PM	#1
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445	CPC 2x KR shows F--, grounding? I got a cheap 2x tele on eBay intending to make a smart extension tube. It appears to have the right contacts. But when mounted to my camera and lens I get F--, which sucks. It was advertised as KA but while similar to this one: CPC 2X it is labeled "MC KR" not "MC-4 PKA". It arrived with bent aperture actuator ( easy fix ) and contacts look good and in the right place. However it has a black painted mount - so I'm suspecting grounding failure. How can I easily check that?

08-29-2015, 06:12 PM	#3
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445 Original Poster	Originally posted by Not a Number The "R" would indicate it is for a Ricoh camera. I'm not sure about the pin comparability between Ricoh and Pentax "A". Does the "A" pin protrude more than the other pins? Otherwise try a bit of metal foil over the data pin on the camera mount side. Which one is the data pin? I can't recall - I guess I will go look it up. There is no Ricoh "pin" on the converter. I'm not sure what the Ricoh pin out is from that era. ---------- Post added 08-29-15 at 09:50 PM ---------- Pictures Above my fingernail is what I think is the Ricoh Pin. It is very sloped and easy to push in and caused no problem on my K3 today. Notice also that the 3th pin from the left? is the highest. Last edited by UncleVanya; 08-29-2015 at 06:51 PM.

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08-29-2015, 04:09 PM	#2
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	The "R" would indicate it is for a Ricoh camera. I'm not sure about the pin comparability between Ricoh and Pentax "A". Does the "A" pin protrude more than the other pins? Otherwise try a bit of metal foil over the data pin on the camera mount side.

08-29-2015, 08:02 PM	#4
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	The data pin would be the 7th pin going clockwise on your second picture. It looks like the "A" pins are recessed and protruding as they should. Try cleaning the contacts. If you have a multi-meter or continuity checker test each pin to see if they are conducting. Could be dirty or the springs on the pins are unseated so no electrical continuity. The pins look clean in the photo but a slight film of oil or grease could block the signal. The TC has a Ricoh pin but it is well rounded so should cause no problems. I've never had a problem with my Vivitar 2x Macro focusing TC which also has a similar Ricoh pin.