Originally posted by robthebloke the 21 or 15 piss on any zoom at the wide end - even the really good ones
Love the possum-stirring Rob, but I don't agree. I love primes too, but I'll admit that a good zoom can often at least be in the same park for IQ as a prime. I reckon the DA 12-24 is at least competitive with the DA 15 and DA 21 for IQ. (Compactness and flare resistance favour the primes but that's another story.) And personally I find the versatility invaluable at the wide end - e.g. you can't zoom with your feet when you are standing on stones in a river (well unless you are really prepared to test the WR!).
Originally posted by clackers I think my advice to someone getting their first DSLR is to get a good zoom to begin with, and then they may or may not go down the path of primes as you and I have, Rob. :-)
As usual @Clackers, I couldn't agree more.
For one thing, people starting out don't necessarily know their most preferred focal lengths until they use a zoom for a while. Then they are better placed to choose a suitable focal length prime if they wish. And to choose a prime that brings something unique, whether it be compactness/light weight, speed, bokeh, rendering or whatever.