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12-09-2015, 04:33 PM   #16
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Thank you bertwert
All those options ARE still under consideration EVEN though NOT fully realizing what each lens means for where I am heading. Although hoping any particular lens will work with K-r

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12-09-2015, 04:40 PM   #17
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As Eric (enoeske) said, I would avoid fish-eye. It's too specific for general landscape needs...
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I know BC tends toward the moist side of weather, but unless you absolutely require WR, that A50mm f2 and stitching will produce some nice landscapes. And you already own one so the price is right.
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Don't get both the 16-45 and the 17-50! Choose one!

For my budget kit, I went for the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8, and HD DA 55-300, both really good lenses for the price. Although I do tend to do more wildlife, hence the need for the 55-300


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QuoteOriginally posted by Imp Quote
Don't get both the 16-45 and the 17-50! Choose one!

For my budget kit, I went for the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8, and HD DA 55-300, both really good lenses for the price. Although I do tend to do more wildlife, hence the need for the 55-300
I've done some nice landscapes with the 55-300, if you can find one in that range. There Hansen a few mentions on manual lenses, a good option. If you can find an A style 28 2.8 or even 2.0 they could serve you well, although I could never get manual focus very well until I had a camera with focus peaking (noting the kx). I went into a city tonight with three primes,8mm, 15mm, and 50mm, I ended up using the 15 almost exclusively. But in the country I would use it a lot less. You can shoot landscapes with any length lens, it just depends on the situation and composition, distance from the subject, and field of view you want.
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I'm not sure if you mentioned it, but perhaps a tripod would be a better solution right now than a new lens?
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Waiting and taking lots of shots with the 18-55 is not a bad idea. It's not that hard to take a thousand shots with a DSLR, as varied as possible. Then look for what that lens was bad at or where you use it. We are just suggesting lenses that we bought or would probably work. Your personal needs might be clearer with experience. For example, I got the DA 16-45/4 for landscape and wide angle, and I like it a lot. My brother has a K-r and wanted "more wide angle" than the 18-55. I loaned him the 16-45 and he didn't think it was anywhere near wide enough. He probably wants something like a Sigma 10-20. Maybe the exchange rate improves while you're waiting, who knows.

The DA 16-45/4 has a couple of advantages for you. It's cheap, really close to your budget. It's image quality is better than the DA 18-55. I find that using software to combine many shots into one very wide shot works well with the 16-45, because it's pretty good at the wide end. The software doesn't have to work so hard at matching up the edges. The disadvantage is that if you're like my brother, 16mm isn't that wide.

Lots of people have suggested not buying a fisheye lens and not said why. I think fisheye lenses are useful. First, if I want to take a funny shot, the fisheye can make almost any subject funny, way easier than any other lens. Second, it is much like crouching low to the ground or shooting from very high - a view from a different direction that stands out more than the standard eye-level normal field of view. Third, the focal length underestimates the field of view - a fisheye crams everything into the frame. Sometimes stuff that you would swear was way behind you ends up in the shot. So it is an extreme wide angle. The disadvantage: fisheye can bend lines that you might want straight, the edge resolution is lower, and flare is a bigger issue. Here are some examples:

Looking straight up, but in the corners you can see the street in front of me:


Natural objects don't always look distorted because your eyes have nothing to compare them to - the left side looks normal, the right curved:


You can stand really close to subjects and still fit them into the shot:


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Thank you ALL - a little too many to reply individually right now.

Have got the list of lenses written down with both a learning and searching curve ahead of me.

Had never thought or done stitching even though I have a reasonable Velbron Tripod and only used it twice after buying it a couple of years ago.

Out of curiosity I tried the 50mm for the first time this morning too. From the untrained eye found with close objects like the trees in the yard next door it was too narrow for. Yet looking at the Lions Park & Playground across the road there seemed to be prospects that would also look well with Stitching.

Just a point for all --->>> Normally when I go out "ClickClickClick" I have and use three cameras virtually every time. The Pentax K-r a Panasonic Infrared Full Spectrum converted with Adjustable 530nm-750nm Filter and a Sony P&S 35x Zoom H300.

This creative photographic journey only started ONLY 4 years ago and that was with a Samsung NX100 Infrared converted. Post Processing is also a major love of mine with Plugins like Nik Software, Topaz Labs, Smart Photo Editor, Photoshop CC, & Paint Shop Pro x8.

Presets are used virtually with ever pic I take so if anyone would like to see where I am and have been in this regard you are welcome to browse here --->>>
https://www.facebook.com/colin.hall.313

Which also might explain my indecision on lenses right now

This is one from a previous Pentax K20D Camera that I gave to a new home Post Processing "A-la Colin" because there was a need to get a Pentax Camera with a SONY SENSOR so hence the K-r --->>>

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=866418656790203&set=a.10678883275319...type=3&theater

And even a Fisheye is under consideration OK!!!

Cheers for years
Colin


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QuoteOriginally posted by Just1MoreDave Quote
Lots of people have suggested not buying a fisheye lens and not said why.
A fair point. If the OP had a number of other lenses, a fish-eye would be an interesting lens to add to the arsenal. Personally, though, I feel it's a bit of a specialist lens - as you've demonstrated (nice shots, by the way!)
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