Originally posted by Kath Perhaps this idea is implied in what folks are saying above about zoom image quality, but I thought it worth pointing out that prime-equivalent quality is not found in some (perhaps most, or many) zooms. The ones that hold up best in image comparisons are zooms we know to have excellent quality to begin with. All too often, people spend good money on a zoom with a wide range to accommodate their needs, only to be disappointed in the lack of sharpness they see in their images.
As always, it pays to research what lenses are proven performers and make your decisions from there. It goes without saying that this applies to primes as well. Unless, of course, you're an early adopter with extra cash who's willing to stomp down the snow for those who follow.
I think you haven't been looking at the posted examples.
Reading reviews is info, but, I got some really good images with the kit lens. You have to be careful that differences aren't exaggerated.
You have to go extreme to get a soft zoom, like zoom ratios over 7:1, the 18-25 kind of lenses, and even those lenses can be quite sharp. The out of focus areas can be a little rough. IN fact in the past I've suggested clean out of focus areas are what you pay for in a lot of expensive lenses. But that's true in both zooms and primes.
The reason I posted example images,
in this thread was to cut through the BS, and just have people pick their favourite image based on what they liked, not the preconceived biases they bring to these kinds of tests. And down that, the prime did poorly. Sure you can say if you analyse technically the prime images was better than everything bu the Tamron 17-50, but other still preferred other images, including me old 35-80. which garnered more votes than chance, because of other qualities, colour rendition and micro contrast.
The fact that a lens might be slightly technically inferior, and honestly, you can't see a difference of 150 lw/ph, the difference between great lens and an average lens. Other qualities are mor important.
I hate to keep going on about this. But if you really believe this stuff, do what I did and prove it. Get some images, post a blind poll, and check the results.
There is absolutely no way to fudge these numbers. People picked the image they thought was the prime, based on their expect that the prime would be the image they liked best.
The poll.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/10-pentax-slr-lens-discussion/302815-35mm-find-prime.html
21% picked th prime, 79% did not.
28% thought the 35-80mwas the best image at web size, which totally goes against you idea that cheap zooms can't compete.
28% thought the Sigma 18-250 was the best image, pixel peeping. That totally goes against your ideas about long focal length zooms.
You'd also see that the most popular image in the 70mm thread was my DA*60-250, over my Sigma 70 macro, which I never would have expected. The 70 macro is an amazing lens, well corrected, and used by Imaging resources for their resolution tests whenever possible.
You're not paying attention here.
I'm not sure how despite the evidence, people can just continue to make these kinds of genreal statements, based on reviewers opinions. DO you believe reviewers, or do you believe your eyes?
This has to be evaluated lens by lens, circumstance by circumstance. If the people in my test had just gone by the general wisdom, 79% of them wouldn't have bought the lens they like best. That is a pretty dismal piece of general advice.