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02-15-2016, 04:17 AM   #16
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Nice info guys, so what I've learned for the most part is that the lens I already have may just be good enough for bokeh and portrait. But its never a bad thing to get a 50mm prime lens. With that being said, having already gotten a nice zoom lens and hearing how well the M 50mm 1.7 stacks up against the rest I think I will get that to start with for its portability, affordability, and the opportunity to work with a manual lens. However, as I am starting to see its importance, I need to look into getting a wider angle lens . And as a result, brings in another argument for this post, which wider angle lens do I need??! I am looking into the FA43 as previously mentioned, as it is around the price range I will allow myself so I can sleep at night. But that dang FA 31 seems to be of the best quality.......

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My modest suggestion is that, rather than spending a lot of money on a prime straight away, get a decent wide-normal zoom, use it (and your 50-135) for a while, and work out which focal lengths - and which shooting style - suits you best. Then look for one or more primes that will fulfil your needs. The lens(es) to get isn't necessarily the one that gets the highest score - it's the one that fits your particular needs and budget. For example, I have refrained from getting the FA 31, as fine as it is, because I don't think I would use it enough to justify the price, and my needs can be met adequately with my other existing lenses.
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very well said, I appreciate that. makes sense.
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If you get an FA43, there will be no point in getting a 50mm (the f1.4 isn't bad though!). For the best of both worlds, there's always the DA* 55 f1.4.

The 31 and 77 are unrivelled, but the 43 isn't as far behind as the reviews may make you believe. I really like the colours, contrast, and bokeh you get with that lens in low light. the 77 is a bokeh monster. The 31 has the most buttery bokeh available (but it's 31mm, so there isn't much of it). The 43 is somewhere inbetween, but with its 8 blades, the bokeh qualities are quite different (not in a bad way, just different).

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For example, I have refrained from getting the FA 31, as fine as it is, because I don't think I would use it enough to justify the price, and my needs can be met adequately with my other existing lenses.
The FA31 is not a lens i'd recommend to many people. It's the lens you should buy if you already own the DA21, DA35ltd, FA43, and FA77. I honestly prefer those lenses to the FA31. But....

If I'm out somewhere, in the darkest vodka bar you've ever seen (iso 3200 to 6400, between 1/6 and 1/15), and am absolutely hammered on high quality vodka, there is no other lens that can cope with me under those conditions....

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QuoteOriginally posted by robthebloke Quote
If I'm out somewhere, in the darkest vodka bar you've ever seen (iso 3200 to 6400, between 1/6 and 1/15), and am absolutely hammered on high quality vodka, there is no other lens that can cope with me under those conditions....
Rob, that's the most specialised recommendation for a lens that I have ever seen. (Enjoyed your pics.)

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The 31 and 77 are unrivelled, but the 43 isn't as far behind as the reviews may make you believe. I really like the colours, contrast, and bokeh you get with that lens in low light.
Yes, the 43 has its idiosyncracies, but it produces a lot of the same 3D pop as the 77. I got my 43 for $A400 second hand (about $US300 at current rates), and I think it was a steal.

But as BigMackCam pointed out there are lots of good primes in the roughly normal-short tele range on APS-C (say 28-55mm). For a new user, it makes sense to work out what focal length suits you best, how fast you need, whether you need corner-to-corner sharpness or more centre sharpness, etc, before jumping in.

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