Photo Security K1 Copyright Info

**mhsp1948** · 12-26-2016, 10:21 AM

I have set up my copyright information, but curious how you can I identify my photo if someone steals it using the copyright in coded info?

Adam · 12-26-2016, 10:25 AM

The copyright information is embedded in the EXIF metadata. Unfortunately it can easily be stripped by a malicious user.

The best way to protect your photos is to limit the resolution of files you share online, and to put in a watermark to discourage random hotlinking.

victormeldrew · 12-26-2016, 11:46 AM

Actually the best way to go about it is to consider anything that you share online to be given away to anyone who wants it. Nothing you can do, short of totally defacing your work, will make it in any way 'secure'.

**mhsp1948** · 12-26-2016, 03:17 PM

Thank you for sharing the information.

**PJ1** · 12-26-2016, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by victormeldrew

Nothing you can do, short of totally defacing your work, will make it in any way 'secure'.

"I don't believe it!" - Thank you for a Victor Meldrew moment.

Wheatfield · 12-26-2016, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by PJ1

"I don't believe it!" - Thank you for a Victor Meldrew moment.

Anything you care to put on the web can be stolen.
Go ahead, give it your best shot security wise, post a link and I'll email you your picture to you.
If it's on the web, it can be lifted.

**PJ1** · 12-26-2016, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

If it's on the web, it can be lifted

Yes, unfortunately. But my response was an oblique joke with @victormeldew who pointed out the lengths one would need to go to and still get pirated. Victor Meldew was a TV character who was always saying, incredulously "I don't believe it!".

Wheatfield · 12-27-2016, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by PJ1

Yes, unfortunately. But my response was an oblique joke with @victormeldew who pointed out the lengths one would need to go to and still get pirated. Victor Meldew was a TV character who was always saying, incredulously "I don't believe it!".

I don't watch much television.

DYR Photography · 01-01-2017, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by mhsp1948

I have set up my copyright information, but curious how you can I identify my photo if someone steals it using the copyright in coded info?

Digimarc (.com) sell a plug in for Photoshop that will leave a digital watermark on your photos. $59 for 1000 images and $119 for 2000 images.

That's about the best you're going to get to protect your images.

You also have to do all the Inventory manually. Every time you export an Image out of Photoshop, you have to increment the number by 1 in your filing system.

Go investigate it.

Hope that helps.

Happy New Year!

**jbinpg** · 01-01-2017, 10:32 PM - **1 Like**

Look up steganography. It is the only feasible way to protect a photo. But it can be a pain in the butt to implement.

robert52 · 01-01-2017, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by PJ1

Yes, unfortunately. But my response was an oblique joke with @victormeldew who pointed out the lengths one would need to go to and still get pirated. Victor Meldew was a TV character who was always saying, incredulously "I don't believe it!".

Ah yes 1 foot in the grave good show LOL

victormeldrew · 01-02-2017, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by DYR Photography

Digimarc (.com) sell a plug in for Photoshop that will leave a digital watermark on your photos. $59 for 1000 images and $119 for 2000 images.

That's about the best you're going to get to protect your images.

This doesn't come close to protecting your images. Identifying when an image has been stolen is not the difficult part... Getting the perpetrator to at least stop, let alone compensate you, is the difficult part. You can forget 10c an image, you would most likely need to start by approaching a lawyer and a court, by which time any value the image had would be spent.

DYR Photography · 01-02-2017, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by victormeldrew

This doesn't come close to protecting your images. Identifying when an image has been stolen is not the difficult part... Getting the perpetrator to at least stop, let alone compensate you, is the difficult part. You can forget 10c an image, you would most likely need to start by approaching a lawyer and a court, by which time any value the image had would be spent.

Tracking the Image is the first step.

Lawyers are the second step.

However, with the World being a smaller place via the Internet, people printing your images and using them for their own Exhibitions is another.

Protecting the Image via a Digital Watermark is about all one has.

Criminals don't care about Gun Laws, but you do.

So, what are you going to do?

LoL

victormeldrew · 01-03-2017, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by DYR Photography

Criminals don't care about Gun Laws, but you do.

So, what are you going to do?

LoL

Live in the UK.

But in terms of sharing images online...I treat it as though I'm leaving a print on a public noticeboard in a city centre. If it's gone the next day, it's gone...if I find copies of it on another board in a week's time, that's to be expected. If it's worth 1000s to me because I have a deal with a gallery or a publisher, I wouldn't leave it lying around at all. If I want to make a living from it, I would take payment for the production of the image and leave the ownership to someone else, by taking commissions or payment for time. If I'm famous enough for my images to be worth more than copyright lawyers charge, then my copy of it will be the only one worth anything anyway...and my book publishers and gallery owners can use their own lawyers if they want.

Hildalill · 01-03-2017, 06:44 AM

Is there an easy way to search for one's photos on the web? Find out where they have been posted?

12-26-2016, 10:21 AM	#1
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12-26-2016, 11:46 AM	#3
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Actually the best way to go about it is to consider anything that you share online to be given away to anyone who wants it. Nothing you can do, short of totally defacing your work, will make it in any way 'secure'.

12-26-2016, 03:17 PM	#4
mhsp1948 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mississippi Photos: Gallery Posts: 617 Original Poster	Thank you for sharing the information.

12-26-2016, 04:19 PM	#5
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,486	Originally posted by victormeldrew Nothing you can do, short of totally defacing your work, will make it in any way 'secure'. "I don't believe it!" - Thank you for a Victor Meldrew moment.

12-26-2016, 09:42 PM	#6
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,987	Originally posted by PJ1 "I don't believe it!" - Thank you for a Victor Meldrew moment. Anything you care to put on the web can be stolen. Go ahead, give it your best shot security wise, post a link and I'll email you your picture to you. If it's on the web, it can be lifted.

12-26-2016, 11:03 PM	#7
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,486	Originally posted by Wheatfield If it's on the web, it can be lifted Yes, unfortunately. But my response was an oblique joke with @victormeldew who pointed out the lengths one would need to go to and still get pirated. Victor Meldew was a TV character who was always saying, incredulously "I don't believe it!".

12-27-2016, 10:05 AM	#8
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,987	Originally posted by PJ1 Yes, unfortunately. But my response was an oblique joke with @victormeldew who pointed out the lengths one would need to go to and still get pirated. Victor Meldew was a TV character who was always saying, incredulously "I don't believe it!". I don't watch much television.

01-01-2017, 09:21 PM	#9
DYR Photography New Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada. Photos: Albums Posts: 14	Originally posted by mhsp1948 I have set up my copyright information, but curious how you can I identify my photo if someone steals it using the copyright in coded info? Digimarc (.com) sell a plug in for Photoshop that will leave a digital watermark on your photos. $59 for 1000 images and $119 for 2000 images. That's about the best you're going to get to protect your images. You also have to do all the Inventory manually. Every time you export an Image out of Photoshop, you have to increment the number by 1 in your filing system. Go investigate it. Hope that helps. Happy New Year!

01-01-2017, 10:32 PM - 1 Like	#10
jbinpg Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,546	Look up steganography. It is the only feasible way to protect a photo. But it can be a pain in the butt to implement.

01-01-2017, 11:20 PM	#11
robert52 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: At the pimple of bum of life Posts: 264	Originally posted by PJ1 Yes, unfortunately. But my response was an oblique joke with @victormeldew who pointed out the lengths one would need to go to and still get pirated. Victor Meldew was a TV character who was always saying, incredulously "I don't believe it!". Ah yes 1 foot in the grave good show LOL

01-02-2017, 03:04 AM	#12
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by DYR Photography Digimarc (.com) sell a plug in for Photoshop that will leave a digital watermark on your photos. $59 for 1000 images and $119 for 2000 images. That's about the best you're going to get to protect your images. This doesn't come close to protecting your images. Identifying when an image has been stolen is not the difficult part... Getting the perpetrator to at least stop, let alone compensate you, is the difficult part. You can forget 10c an image, you would most likely need to start by approaching a lawyer and a court, by which time any value the image had would be spent.

01-02-2017, 09:46 AM	#13
DYR Photography New Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada. Photos: Albums Posts: 14	Originally posted by victormeldrew This doesn't come close to protecting your images. Identifying when an image has been stolen is not the difficult part... Getting the perpetrator to at least stop, let alone compensate you, is the difficult part. You can forget 10c an image, you would most likely need to start by approaching a lawyer and a court, by which time any value the image had would be spent. Tracking the Image is the first step. Lawyers are the second step. However, with the World being a smaller place via the Internet, people printing your images and using them for their own Exhibitions is another. Protecting the Image via a Digital Watermark is about all one has. Criminals don't care about Gun Laws, but you do. So, what are you going to do? LoL

01-03-2017, 12:56 AM	#14
victormeldrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: South West UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,493	Originally posted by DYR Photography Criminals don't care about Gun Laws, but you do. So, what are you going to do? LoL Live in the UK. But in terms of sharing images online...I treat it as though I'm leaving a print on a public noticeboard in a city centre. If it's gone the next day, it's gone...if I find copies of it on another board in a week's time, that's to be expected. If it's worth 1000s to me because I have a deal with a gallery or a publisher, I wouldn't leave it lying around at all. If I want to make a living from it, I would take payment for the production of the image and leave the ownership to someone else, by taking commissions or payment for time. If I'm famous enough for my images to be worth more than copyright lawyers charge, then my copy of it will be the only one worth anything anyway...and my book publishers and gallery owners can use their own lawyers if they want.

01-03-2017, 06:44 AM	#15
Hildalill Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 29	Is there an easy way to search for one's photos on the web? Find out where they have been posted?