Digital Camera Utility 5

Bophoto · 07-28-2017, 11:13 PM

Or, just download Silkypix 8 (30 days free) from SILKYPIX RAW Conversion and Photo Correction Software for Photographers
It´s better than DCU.

mcleoud151 · 08-01-2017, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by RKKS08

@mcleoud151
The reason why Ricoh/Pentax do handle access to the DCU software different from manuals and firmware downloads, is quite obvious.
Manuals and firmware are Pentax property, and using them does only make sense for Pentax camera owners. The first owner of the camera payed for the development when he bought the camera.

This is quite different with DCU. It is based on SilkyPix, and I guess Ricoh has to pay something like $20 for every camera produced. Mind that DCU handles pictures saved as DNG independent from the camera brand. SilkyPix studio prices have varied in the past, but usually are something like $100-150 (the cheaper download version). If you could get it for free from Pentax (even if it is based on an older version), Pentax would for sure have to pay a licence fee for every downloaded file.

Some years ago you could get the CD from an European Pentax distributor for about $50. At that time I tried to get DCU4 for my K200D (DCU3 had a terrible user interface and, on many computers, caused all kinds of problems on installation). I finally found an US company which had bought a bulk of K-5s, and offered the redundant CDs through eBay for $20 plus (low) shipping cost.

All well and good, but it's still 2017. Give users a one-time-code to download the software. I understand WHY, but that doesn't mean it's good business. I love Pentax and have been a Pentaxian for over twenty years, but this is just silly.

Pentax K5 · 07-24-2021, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by RKKS08

@mcleoud151
The reason why Ricoh/Pentax do handle access to the DCU software different from manuals and firmware downloads, is quite obvious.
Manuals and firmware are Pentax property, and using them does only make sense for Pentax camera owners. The first owner of the camera payed for the development when he bought the camera.

This is quite different with DCU. It is based on SilkyPix, and I guess Ricoh has to pay something like $20 for every camera produced. Mind that DCU handles pictures saved as DNG independent from the camera brand. SilkyPix studio prices have varied in the past, but usually are something like $100-150 (the cheaper download version). If you could get it for free from Pentax (even if it is based on an older version), Pentax would for sure have to pay a licence fee for every downloaded file.

Some years ago you could get the CD from an European Pentax distributor for about $50. At that time I tried to get DCU4 for my K200D (DCU3 had a terrible user interface and, on many computers, caused all kinds of problems on installation). I finally found an US company which had bought a bulk of K-5s, and offered the redundant CDs through eBay for $20 plus (low) shipping cost.

Just bought a K3 III and User manual says the Utility5 SW is included but: it's not! No CD no thumbdrive, no direction to find onsite. When I download the Updater for 5 it says " Cannot to find old version that is valid target of upgrading. INSTALLATION CANCELLED.

I am scouring the net for an original version but bome up empty. Renaming the file also end up w installation cancelled. Frustrating when I just laid down $2,000.00

kypfer · 07-24-2021, 08:32 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Pentax K5

Just bought a K3 III and User manual says the Utility5 SW is included but: it's not! No CD no thumbdrive, no direction to find onsite. When I download the Updater for 5 it says " Cannot to find old version that is valid target of upgrading. INSTALLATION CANCELLED.

I am scouring the net for an original version but bome up empty. Renaming the file also end up w installation cancelled. Frustrating when I just laid down $2,000.00

The software is loaded within the camera as a CD image … you'll find the details in the instruction book p98

Pentax K5 · 07-24-2021, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by kypfer

The software is loaded within the camera as a CD image … you'll find the details in the instruction book p98

OK! I would've never thought of that. I ended up formating a USB drive and nameing it "S-SW140" and then and only then would the U5 updater proceed and install the complete new version of U5.

Thanks and I'm still working thru the User manual...

I am sure I'll be glad I did!

Have a great weekend.

kypfer · 07-24-2021, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Pentax K5

OK! I would've never thought of that. I ended up formating a USB drive and nameing it "S-SW140" and then and only then would the U5 updater proceed and install the complete new version of U5.

Thanks and I'm still working thru the User manual...

I am sure I'll be glad I did!

Have a great weekend.

Glad you sorted it

On delivery of my K-3iii it took me 2 1/2 hours to work through the manual, just finding the features I was immediately interested in and configuring the camera to suit. Three months and 2,500 exposures later and I'm still fine tuning the setup, adding features to User Modes and generally coming to grips with the total configurability of the camera … and that's just for stills … I don't do video!
Enjoy

07-24-2021, 09:31 AM	#20
Pentax K5 New Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Georgia Posts: 20	Originally posted by kypfer The software is loaded within the camera as a CD image … you'll find the details in the instruction book p98 OK! I would've never thought of that. I ended up formating a USB drive and nameing it "S-SW140" and then and only then would the U5 updater proceed and install the complete new version of U5. Thanks and I'm still working thru the User manual... I am sure I'll be glad I did! Have a great weekend. Last edited by Pentax K5; 07-24-2021 at 09:55 AM.

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07-28-2017, 11:13 PM	#16
Bophoto Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 429	Or, just download Silkypix 8 (30 days free) from SILKYPIX RAW Conversion and Photo Correction Software for Photographers It´s better than DCU.

08-01-2017, 07:36 AM	#17
mcleoud151 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oregon Coast Photos: Gallery Posts: 272	Originally posted by RKKS08 @mcleoud151 The reason why Ricoh/Pentax do handle access to the DCU software different from manuals and firmware downloads, is quite obvious. Manuals and firmware are Pentax property, and using them does only make sense for Pentax camera owners. The first owner of the camera payed for the development when he bought the camera. This is quite different with DCU. It is based on SilkyPix, and I guess Ricoh has to pay something like $20 for every camera produced. Mind that DCU handles pictures saved as DNG independent from the camera brand. SilkyPix studio prices have varied in the past, but usually are something like $100-150 (the cheaper download version). If you could get it for free from Pentax (even if it is based on an older version), Pentax would for sure have to pay a licence fee for every downloaded file. Some years ago you could get the CD from an European Pentax distributor for about $50. At that time I tried to get DCU4 for my K200D (DCU3 had a terrible user interface and, on many computers, caused all kinds of problems on installation). I finally found an US company which had bought a bulk of K-5s, and offered the redundant CDs through eBay for $20 plus (low) shipping cost. All well and good, but it's still 2017. Give users a one-time-code to download the software. I understand WHY, but that doesn't mean it's good business. I love Pentax and have been a Pentaxian for over twenty years, but this is just silly.

07-24-2021, 08:28 AM	#18
Pentax K5 New Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Georgia Posts: 20	Originally posted by RKKS08 @mcleoud151 The reason why Ricoh/Pentax do handle access to the DCU software different from manuals and firmware downloads, is quite obvious. Manuals and firmware are Pentax property, and using them does only make sense for Pentax camera owners. The first owner of the camera payed for the development when he bought the camera. This is quite different with DCU. It is based on SilkyPix, and I guess Ricoh has to pay something like $20 for every camera produced. Mind that DCU handles pictures saved as DNG independent from the camera brand. SilkyPix studio prices have varied in the past, but usually are something like $100-150 (the cheaper download version). If you could get it for free from Pentax (even if it is based on an older version), Pentax would for sure have to pay a licence fee for every downloaded file. Some years ago you could get the CD from an European Pentax distributor for about $50. At that time I tried to get DCU4 for my K200D (DCU3 had a terrible user interface and, on many computers, caused all kinds of problems on installation). I finally found an US company which had bought a bulk of K-5s, and offered the redundant CDs through eBay for $20 plus (low) shipping cost. Just bought a K3 III and User manual says the Utility5 SW is included but: it's not! No CD no thumbdrive, no direction to find onsite. When I download the Updater for 5 it says " Cannot to find old version that is valid target of upgrading. INSTALLATION CANCELLED. I am scouring the net for an original version but bome up empty. Renaming the file also end up w installation cancelled. Frustrating when I just laid down $2,000.00

07-24-2021, 08:32 AM - 1 Like	#19
kypfer Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Jersey C.I. Posts: 3,594	Originally posted by Pentax K5 Just bought a K3 III and User manual says the Utility5 SW is included but: it's not! No CD no thumbdrive, no direction to find onsite. When I download the Updater for 5 it says " Cannot to find old version that is valid target of upgrading. INSTALLATION CANCELLED. I am scouring the net for an original version but bome up empty. Renaming the file also end up w installation cancelled. Frustrating when I just laid down $2,000.00 The software is loaded within the camera as a CD image … you'll find the details in the instruction book p98

07-24-2021, 10:49 AM	#21
kypfer Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Jersey C.I. Posts: 3,594	Originally posted by Pentax K5 OK! I would've never thought of that. I ended up formating a USB drive and nameing it "S-SW140" and then and only then would the U5 updater proceed and install the complete new version of U5. Thanks and I'm still working thru the User manual... I am sure I'll be glad I did! Have a great weekend. Glad you sorted it On delivery of my K-3iii it took me 2 1/2 hours to work through the manual, just finding the features I was immediately interested in and configuring the camera to suit. Three months and 2,500 exposures later and I'm still fine tuning the setup, adding features to User Modes and generally coming to grips with the total configurability of the camera … and that's just for stills … I don't do video! Enjoy