Unpleasant surprise

maxgroebel · 08-20-2018, 10:06 AM

Hi everybody,
I'm happily shooting along with my K3II. But I have had an unpleasant surprise several times this summer. I suddenly realize that the colour schem setting has changed without my having done it. A number of my last pictures have been wasted, and have got either (mostly) dull subdued colours or sometimes ccrizily wild colours. I don't understand how it can happen because I have to press the respective buttons several times to it myself. Any possibility of locking the settings so it doens't happen unintentionally?

CarlJF · 08-20-2018, 10:14 AM

It could happen when trying to select a focus point but whilth the pad not set on focus point selection... If you have the RAW files, just develop new jpgs with the right color style, in camera or with PDCU. If you don't have the RAW file, you now know why it's always a good idea to use RAW+ instead of "jpg only"...

**FozzFoster** · 08-20-2018, 10:22 AM

maybe your white balance is tied to your focus point instead of metering the whole image.

If your focus point meters on something lighter and inch over something darker, you could get two very different looking images..

Maybe? Just and idea?

**Kevin B123** · 08-20-2018, 11:04 AM

I think you have changed the custom image on the right hand button of the four-way controller. If you hand it on bright, it's easy to change to cross processing without noticing. Been there, done that.

dubyam · 08-20-2018, 11:04 AM

Could it be that you have different settings activated in different modes? These cameras save a lot of settings if you aren't careful to uncheck the various "save" boxes.

**Kevin B123** · 08-20-2018, 11:07 AM - **1 Like**

My solution is to shoot raw, as Carl says. You could also try to use natural image.

**aslyfox** · 08-20-2018, 11:51 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kevin B123

I think you have changed the custom image on the right hand button of the four-way controller. If you hand it on bright, it's easy to change to cross processing without noticing. Been there, done that.

I too have fallen into this ' trap '

I blame it on my fat thumb

I would love to know there was some way to " lock " those selections - the one on the left and the one on the right of the 4 way selector

**shardulm** · 08-20-2018, 12:25 PM

if you have the RAW files this should not be an issue. There is no waste when you shoot in RAW or RAW+.

dofmaster · 08-20-2018, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by aslyfox

I too have fallen into this ' trap '

I blame it on my fat thumb

I would love to know there was some way to " lock " those selections - the one on the left and the one on the right of the 4 way selector

On the K1 you can make the AF selector the default for the four way controller, that helps avoiding these other menus and accidentally changing settings.

**MossyRocks** · 08-20-2018, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by aslyfox

I too have fallen into this ' trap '

I blame it on my fat thumb

I would love to know there was some way to " lock " those selections - the one on the left and the one on the right of the 4 way selector

I've gotten the white balance off as well as having set all sorts of other things accidentally. I blame my fat ass as I am walking through the woods and the camera hits it and I unwittingly press buttons. This is one of the reasons why I always shoot raw. If you like having the jpegs without going developing on the computer then shoot raw+ as if this happens you can still correct from the raw image. I've put it into vivid mode, cross process, etc. although the various white balances seem to be the ones I set most accidently.

**TER-OR** · 08-20-2018, 01:07 PM

I've screwed up my white balance numerous times. I'm shooting RAW so it's not too bad, but I have to remind myself to check occasionally. I get home and think 'these images seem awfully yellow...'

**BarryE** · 08-20-2018, 01:33 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kevin B123

My solution is to shoot raw, as Carl says. You could also try to use natural image.

... and Natural seems to give a more accurate histogram too. What I mean is I shoot in RAW and when I chimp the histogram (in JPEG), the Natural setting and the blinkies seem to reflect the highlights more precisely. Adjusting the exposure from the chimped histogram in Natural to just show over-exposure means I have a little more wiggle room with the highlights in post - normally.

SSGGeezer · 08-20-2018, 01:36 PM

I have had the ISO change when I have a large lens mounted and the camera bounces against my hip or ribs depending on the strap used. Now I never let go of the lens foot and shoot RAW+.

peggers · 08-21-2018, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by maxgroebel

Hi everybody,
I'm happily shooting along with my K3II. But I have had an unpleasant surprise several times this summer. I suddenly realize that the colour schem setting has changed without my having done it. A number of my last pictures have been wasted, and have got either (mostly) dull subdued colours or sometimes ccrizily wild colours. I don't understand how it can happen because I have to press the respective buttons several times to it myself. Any possibility of locking the settings so it doens't happen unintentionally?

touched that green button by mistake?

Jonathan Mac · 08-21-2018, 02:34 AM

This has happened to me at times too. Another good reason for always shooting RAW.

08-20-2018, 10:06 AM	#1
maxgroebel New Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 21	Unpleasant surprise Hi everybody, I'm happily shooting along with my K3II. But I have had an unpleasant surprise several times this summer. I suddenly realize that the colour schem setting has changed without my having done it. A number of my last pictures have been wasted, and have got either (mostly) dull subdued colours or sometimes ccrizily wild colours. I don't understand how it can happen because I have to press the respective buttons several times to it myself. Any possibility of locking the settings so it doens't happen unintentionally?

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08-20-2018, 10:14 AM	#2
CarlJF Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,185	It could happen when trying to select a focus point but whilth the pad not set on focus point selection... If you have the RAW files, just develop new jpgs with the right color style, in camera or with PDCU. If you don't have the RAW file, you now know why it's always a good idea to use RAW+ instead of "jpg only"...

08-20-2018, 10:22 AM	#3
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	maybe your white balance is tied to your focus point instead of metering the whole image. If your focus point meters on something lighter and inch over something darker, you could get two very different looking images.. Maybe? Just and idea?

08-20-2018, 11:04 AM	#4
Kevin B123 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Hampshire Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,176	I think you have changed the custom image on the right hand button of the four-way controller. If you hand it on bright, it's easy to change to cross processing without noticing. Been there, done that.

08-20-2018, 11:04 AM	#5
dubyam Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 221	Could it be that you have different settings activated in different modes? These cameras save a lot of settings if you aren't careful to uncheck the various "save" boxes.

08-20-2018, 11:07 AM - 1 Like	#6
Kevin B123 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Hampshire Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,176	My solution is to shoot raw, as Carl says. You could also try to use natural image.

08-20-2018, 11:51 AM - 1 Like	#7
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by Kevin B123 I think you have changed the custom image on the right hand button of the four-way controller. If you hand it on bright, it's easy to change to cross processing without noticing. Been there, done that. I too have fallen into this ' trap ' I blame it on my fat thumb I would love to know there was some way to " lock " those selections - the one on the left and the one on the right of the 4 way selector

08-20-2018, 12:25 PM	#8
shardulm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 793	if you have the RAW files this should not be an issue. There is no waste when you shoot in RAW or RAW+.

08-20-2018, 12:41 PM	#9
dofmaster Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 53	Originally posted by aslyfox I too have fallen into this ' trap ' I blame it on my fat thumb I would love to know there was some way to " lock " those selections - the one on the left and the one on the right of the 4 way selector On the K1 you can make the AF selector the default for the four way controller, that helps avoiding these other menus and accidentally changing settings.

08-20-2018, 12:43 PM	#10
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982	Originally posted by aslyfox I too have fallen into this ' trap ' I blame it on my fat thumb I would love to know there was some way to " lock " those selections - the one on the left and the one on the right of the 4 way selector I've gotten the white balance off as well as having set all sorts of other things accidentally. I blame my fat ass as I am walking through the woods and the camera hits it and I unwittingly press buttons. This is one of the reasons why I always shoot raw. If you like having the jpegs without going developing on the computer then shoot raw+ as if this happens you can still correct from the raw image. I've put it into vivid mode, cross process, etc. although the various white balances seem to be the ones I set most accidently.

08-20-2018, 01:07 PM	#11
TER-OR Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dundee, IL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,699	I've screwed up my white balance numerous times. I'm shooting RAW so it's not too bad, but I have to remind myself to check occasionally. I get home and think 'these images seem awfully yellow...'

08-20-2018, 01:33 PM - 1 Like	#12
BarryE Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,653	Originally posted by Kevin B123 My solution is to shoot raw, as Carl says. You could also try to use natural image. ... and Natural seems to give a more accurate histogram too. What I mean is I shoot in RAW and when I chimp the histogram (in JPEG), the Natural setting and the blinkies seem to reflect the highlights more precisely. Adjusting the exposure from the chimped histogram in Natural to just show over-exposure means I have a little more wiggle room with the highlights in post - normally.

08-20-2018, 01:36 PM	#13
SSGGeezer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Indiana, U.S. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,845	I have had the ISO change when I have a large lens mounted and the camera bounces against my hip or ribs depending on the strap used. Now I never let go of the lens foot and shoot RAW+.

08-21-2018, 02:29 AM	#14
peggers Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Endeavour Hills, Victoria, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 210	Originally posted by maxgroebel Hi everybody, I'm happily shooting along with my K3II. But I have had an unpleasant surprise several times this summer. I suddenly realize that the colour schem setting has changed without my having done it. A number of my last pictures have been wasted, and have got either (mostly) dull subdued colours or sometimes ccrizily wild colours. I don't understand how it can happen because I have to press the respective buttons several times to it myself. Any possibility of locking the settings so it doens't happen unintentionally? touched that green button by mistake?

08-21-2018, 02:34 AM	#15
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,897	This has happened to me at times too. Another good reason for always shooting RAW.