Crop mode on K-1

TerryL · 09-13-2018, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by C_Jones

There was a thread having to do with ND filters recently that I posted in. Below is a shortcut to the post I placed in case you are interested. Of course there are other posts there that you can observe also if needed. Please note that you do not need to meter prior to placing an ND filter on your lens. It may be a preference to use that method or not, but is not completely necessary.

Using ND filters - PentaxForums.com

Yes, I posted that question. The replies just weren't quite clear enough for me. I did appreciate every one of them, though.
Terry

---------- Post added 09-13-18 at 04:21 PM ----------

Originally posted by normhead

I use the DA*200 ƒ2.8

On the K-1

On the K-3 with the HD DA 1.4 TC

Third party 200 for Pentax? I actually don't know of any, maybe check the lens data base.

That is beautiful. Thank you.
Terry

C_Jones · 09-13-2018, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by TerryL

Yes, I posted that question. The replies just weren't quite clear enough for me. I did appreciate every one of them, though.
Terry

After going through the steps yourself you will see what works and how.

Barry Pearson · 09-13-2018, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by TerryL

Hello,
I have the k1. Can I put it in crop mode, and use some of the long focal length DA lenses?
Thank you,
Terry

Others have answer your basic question. I'll add something that I haven't spotted here.

The K-1-series also has "Square" crop mode. About 24 MP. All it really gives you is a visual indication in the viewfinder, which some people may find useful, while others don't.

I discussed it at the DPReview thread below. (Including how to recover images back to 36 MP in Lightroom).

Revisiting SQUARE crop on K-1-series

TerryL · 09-14-2018, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by normhead

I use the DA*200 ƒ2.8

On the K-1

On the K-3 with the HD DA 1.4 TC

Third party 200 for Pentax? I actually don't know of any, maybe check the lens data base.

That's a great shot of the bird. When using the DA 200, what focal length do you end up with on your K-1?
Thank you,
Terry

normhead · 09-14-2018, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by TerryL

That's a great shot of the bird. When using the DA 200, what focal length do you end up with on your K-1?
Thank you,
Terry

200mm is 200 mm no matter what you're shooting on. On a K-3 it's 300mm equivalent. On a K-1 it's 200mm equivalent, because these equivalents are based on 35mm. However, if you are used to shooting APS-c it's about the equivalent of a 135mm APS-c lens.

pschlute · 09-14-2018, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by TerryL

When using the DA 200, what focal length do you end up with on your K-1

200 mm because it is a 200mm lens. .. Forget everything you have ever heard about equivalent focal length.

TerryL · 09-14-2018, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by normhead

200mm is 200 mm no matter what you're shooting on. On a K-3 it's 300mm equivalent. On a K-1 it's 200mm equivalent, because these equivalents are based on 35mm. However, if you are used to shooting APS-c it's about the equivalent of a 135mm APS-c lens.

Thank you, Norm.
Terry

---------- Post added 09-14-18 at 12:15 PM ----------

Originally posted by pschlute

200 mm because it is a 200mm lens. .. Forget everything you have ever heard about equivalent focal length.

Thank you, Peter. I looked at that lens at BH, and it is beautiful. Just might end up with it.
Terry

lesmore49 · 09-14-2018, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Adam

15. By default crop mode will automatically turn itself on for non-FF lenses.

I purposely set my K1 onto Full Frame and leave it there at all times. I do put my 40 and 70 Limiteds on ...vignetting doesn't seem to be a problem and I'm assuming my K1 is still on FF mode with these two lenses on the K1. Are you saying that my K1 will automatically switch from the FF setting to crop mode when I attach either the 40 or 70 Limited ?

normhead · 09-14-2018, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by lesmore49

I purposely set my K1 onto Full Frame and leave it there at all times. I do put my 40 and 70 Limiteds on ...vignetting doesn't seem to be a problem and I'm assuming my K1 is still on FF mode with these two lenses on the K1. Are you saying that my K1 will automatically switch from the FF setting to crop mode when I attach either the 40 or 70 Limited ?

Turn crop mode off in the settings. All Pentax lenses appear complete with vignetting, even vignetted images can give me 30 MP, depending on how I crop.

Adam · 09-14-2018, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by lesmore49

I purposely set my K1 onto Full Frame and leave it there at all times. I do put my 40 and 70 Limiteds on ...vignetting doesn't seem to be a problem and I'm assuming my K1 is still on FF mode with these two lenses on the K1. Are you saying that my K1 will automatically switch from the FF setting to crop mode when I attach either the 40 or 70 Limited ?

Since you changed the crop setting, your camera should always shoot in FF mode. But by default the crop setting is "auto".

TerryL · 09-14-2018, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by pschlute

Use manual exposure mode and meter for the scene without a filter. Put the filter on the lens. Then if it is a 10 stop filter, adjust the shutter speed by 10 stops.

Peter,
I tried your method to adjust shutter speed when using ND filters. That is exactly what I wanted. It's now my method. I plan to practice using my Lee Big Stopper next week, when it stops raining. Again, thank you.
Terry

---------- Post added 09-14-18 at 02:20 PM ----------

Originally posted by normhead

I use the DA*200 ƒ2.8

On the K-1

On the K-3 with the HD DA 1.4 TC

Third party 200 for Pentax? I actually don't know of any, maybe check the lens data base.

Hello again Norm,
Are both the DA 200 and DA 300 lenses FF compatible? They are both really nice.
Thank you,
Terry

lesmore49 · 09-14-2018, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Since you changed the crop setting, your camera should always shoot in FF mode. But by default the crop setting is "auto".

---------- Post added 09-14-18 at 05:35 PM ----------

Originally posted by normhead

Turn crop mode off in the settings. All Pentax lenses appear complete with vignetting, even vignetted images can give me 30 MP, depending on how I crop.

Thanks Adam and Norm for your info.

pschlute · 09-14-2018, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by lesmore49

Thanks Adam and Norm for your info

You will easily notice if the camera is in crop (or Auto-crop) mode. You will see the black border in the viewfinder

lesmore49 · 09-14-2018, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by pschlute

You will easily notice if the camera is in crop (or Auto-crop) mode. You will see the black border in the viewfinder

Quite right. Sort of reminded me of an old rangefinder with interchangeable lenses when I had the camera in crop mode.

pschlute · 09-14-2018, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by TerryL

I tried your method to adjust shutter speed when using ND filters. That is exactly what I wanted. It's now my method. I plan to practice using my Lee Big Stopper next week, when it stops raining. Again, thank you.

As others pointed out you can take a reading with the ND in place also. But I find my method works best for me especially as I am often using a Graduated ND filter in combination with the ND. In this case i will be spot metering various points in the scene first to decide on which strength Grad to use. I do this before framing the scene how I want it, and then focusing. Then it is AF off and slot the filters in place.

09-14-2018, 12:59 PM	#25
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09-13-2018, 04:20 PM	#16
TerryL Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 850 Original Poster	Originally posted by C_Jones There was a thread having to do with ND filters recently that I posted in. Below is a shortcut to the post I placed in case you are interested. Of course there are other posts there that you can observe also if needed. Please note that you do not need to meter prior to placing an ND filter on your lens. It may be a preference to use that method or not, but is not completely necessary. Using ND filters - PentaxForums.com Yes, I posted that question. The replies just weren't quite clear enough for me. I did appreciate every one of them, though. Terry ---------- Post added 09-13-18 at 04:21 PM ---------- Originally posted by normhead I use the DA*200 ƒ2.8 On the K-1 On the K-3 with the HD DA 1.4 TC Third party 200 for Pentax? I actually don't know of any, maybe check the lens data base. That is beautiful. Thank you. Terry

09-13-2018, 09:05 PM	#17
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,086	Originally posted by TerryL Yes, I posted that question. The replies just weren't quite clear enough for me. I did appreciate every one of them, though. Terry After going through the steps yourself you will see what works and how.

09-13-2018, 11:22 PM	#18
Barry Pearson Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Stockport Posts: 964	Originally posted by TerryL Hello, I have the k1. Can I put it in crop mode, and use some of the long focal length DA lenses? Thank you, Terry Others have answer your basic question. I'll add something that I haven't spotted here. The K-1-series also has "Square" crop mode. About 24 MP. All it really gives you is a visual indication in the viewfinder, which some people may find useful, while others don't. I discussed it at the DPReview thread below. (Including how to recover images back to 36 MP in Lightroom). Revisiting SQUARE crop on K-1-series

09-14-2018, 09:33 AM	#19
TerryL Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 850 Original Poster	Originally posted by normhead I use the DA*200 ƒ2.8 On the K-1 On the K-3 with the HD DA 1.4 TC Third party 200 for Pentax? I actually don't know of any, maybe check the lens data base. That's a great shot of the bird. When using the DA 200, what focal length do you end up with on your K-1? Thank you, Terry

09-14-2018, 09:44 AM	#20
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by TerryL That's a great shot of the bird. When using the DA 200, what focal length do you end up with on your K-1? Thank you, Terry 200mm is 200 mm no matter what you're shooting on. On a K-3 it's 300mm equivalent. On a K-1 it's 200mm equivalent, because these equivalents are based on 35mm. However, if you are used to shooting APS-c it's about the equivalent of a 135mm APS-c lens.

09-14-2018, 11:46 AM	#21
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	Originally posted by TerryL When using the DA 200, what focal length do you end up with on your K-1 200 mm because it is a 200mm lens. .. Forget everything you have ever heard about equivalent focal length.

09-14-2018, 12:12 PM	#22
TerryL Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 850 Original Poster	Originally posted by normhead 200mm is 200 mm no matter what you're shooting on. On a K-3 it's 300mm equivalent. On a K-1 it's 200mm equivalent, because these equivalents are based on 35mm. However, if you are used to shooting APS-c it's about the equivalent of a 135mm APS-c lens. Thank you, Norm. Terry ---------- Post added 09-14-18 at 12:15 PM ---------- Originally posted by pschlute 200 mm because it is a 200mm lens. .. Forget everything you have ever heard about equivalent focal length. Thank you, Peter. I looked at that lens at BH, and it is beautiful. Just might end up with it. Terry

09-14-2018, 12:34 PM	#23
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,350	Originally posted by Adam 15. By default crop mode will automatically turn itself on for non-FF lenses. I purposely set my K1 onto Full Frame and leave it there at all times. I do put my 40 and 70 Limiteds on ...vignetting doesn't seem to be a problem and I'm assuming my K1 is still on FF mode with these two lenses on the K1. Are you saying that my K1 will automatically switch from the FF setting to crop mode when I attach either the 40 or 70 Limited ?

09-14-2018, 12:47 PM	#24
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by lesmore49 I purposely set my K1 onto Full Frame and leave it there at all times. I do put my 40 and 70 Limiteds on ...vignetting doesn't seem to be a problem and I'm assuming my K1 is still on FF mode with these two lenses on the K1. Are you saying that my K1 will automatically switch from the FF setting to crop mode when I attach either the 40 or 70 Limited ? Turn crop mode off in the settings. All Pentax lenses appear complete with vignetting, even vignetted images can give me 30 MP, depending on how I crop.

09-14-2018, 01:23 PM	#26
TerryL Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 850 Original Poster	Originally posted by pschlute Use manual exposure mode and meter for the scene without a filter. Put the filter on the lens. Then if it is a 10 stop filter, adjust the shutter speed by 10 stops. Peter, I tried your method to adjust shutter speed when using ND filters. That is exactly what I wanted. It's now my method. I plan to practice using my Lee Big Stopper next week, when it stops raining. Again, thank you. Terry ---------- Post added 09-14-18 at 02:20 PM ---------- Originally posted by normhead I use the DA*200 ƒ2.8 On the K-1 On the K-3 with the HD DA 1.4 TC Third party 200 for Pentax? I actually don't know of any, maybe check the lens data base. Hello again Norm, Are both the DA 200 and DA 300 lenses FF compatible? They are both really nice. Thank you, Terry

09-14-2018, 03:34 PM	#27
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,350	Originally posted by Adam Since you changed the crop setting, your camera should always shoot in FF mode. But by default the crop setting is "auto". ---------- Post added 09-14-18 at 05:35 PM ---------- Originally posted by normhead Turn crop mode off in the settings. All Pentax lenses appear complete with vignetting, even vignetted images can give me 30 MP, depending on how I crop. Thanks Adam and Norm for your info.

09-14-2018, 07:49 PM	#28
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	Originally posted by lesmore49 Thanks Adam and Norm for your info You will easily notice if the camera is in crop (or Auto-crop) mode. You will see the black border in the viewfinder

09-14-2018, 07:52 PM	#29
lesmore49 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 12,350	Originally posted by pschlute You will easily notice if the camera is in crop (or Auto-crop) mode. You will see the black border in the viewfinder Quite right. Sort of reminded me of an old rangefinder with interchangeable lenses when I had the camera in crop mode.

09-14-2018, 08:01 PM	#30
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	Originally posted by TerryL I tried your method to adjust shutter speed when using ND filters. That is exactly what I wanted. It's now my method. I plan to practice using my Lee Big Stopper next week, when it stops raining. Again, thank you. As others pointed out you can take a reading with the ND in place also. But I find my method works best for me especially as I am often using a Graduated ND filter in combination with the ND. In this case i will be spot metering various points in the scene first to decide on which strength Grad to use. I do this before framing the scene how I want it, and then focusing. Then it is AF off and slot the filters in place.