K3 saving digital preview as a RAW file

Robot camera · 02-09-2019, 01:33 PM

I fairly often save my digital preview images, but find the camera saves them as a JPEG, when I want to save them as a RAW file. Is it possible to change this? I've had a good look through the manual and camera menus, to no avail. As the thread title says, the camera is a K3. The first version.

**UncleVanya** · 02-09-2019, 01:43 PM

What is the file type set to?

Robot camera · 02-09-2019, 02:14 PM

When just taking photos, it's set to RAW. I cannot see where to set the file type of a saved digital preview image.

**UncleVanya** · 02-09-2019, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Robot camera

When just taking photos, it's set to RAW. I cannot see where to set the file type of a saved digital preview image.

I don't know what you mean by a digital preview image. If you mean what is embedded in the raw file, to see a representation of the image, that must be a jpg by definition.

Last edited by UncleVanya; 02-09-2019 at 03:10 PM.

virusn3t · 02-09-2019, 02:50 PM

I dont remember exactly, but in the K1 on menu (the part with the camera) second tab, there the "camera adjust image" and in that menu the type of archive, type of RAW archive (DNG or PEF), and the space color....

Bengan · 02-09-2019, 03:02 PM

Your preview will be a JPEG. You will never view RAW data

pschlute · 02-09-2019, 04:52 PM

I think he means saving the "Digital preview" that one gets as an alernative to "optical preview" using the DOF preview button.

Never use digital preview, so cant help.

MrB1 · 02-09-2019, 05:55 PM

Unless anyone else knows a simpler method, you will probably have to follow through these steps:

1. Press AE-L to save your digital Preview image as a JPEG file.
2. Before doing anything else, press the Playback Button to review that JPEG on the rear screen.
3. Now pressing AE-L again will enable you to save the raw file.

Philip

**Larrymc** · 02-09-2019, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Robot camera

When just taking photos, it's set to RAW. I cannot see where to set the file type of a saved digital preview image.

Set your memory card options under camera menu 1 to write RAW to card 1 and JPEG to card 2. That will save your digital preview plus your RAW file.

pschlute · 02-09-2019, 08:14 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MrB1

Unless anyone else knows a simpler method, you will probably have to follow through these steps

My simpler method is not to use digital preview at all. I honestly don't see the point of it. Just take a picture instead

**twilhelm** · 02-10-2019, 07:37 AM

As @pschlute stated. Take the shot, make adjustments and delete the original if desired.

**StiffLegged** · 02-10-2019, 07:55 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pschlute

My simpler method is not to use digital preview at all. I honestly don't see the point of it. Just take a picture instead

Some folk think it useful when checking RGB histograms which Live view doesn't support. I ended up turning it off since the preview's histograms don't accurately reflect the RAW file's RGB histograms and it all seemed like too much faffing about – and I faff about too much already.

Anyway, depth of field checks in Live view are much more useful to me.

aaacb · 02-10-2019, 09:15 AM

I don't think there's a way to save as raw.

Originally posted by pschlute

My simpler method is not to use digital preview at all. I honestly don't see the point of it. Just take a picture instead

Here's why I use it: I don't like having instant review on, and I keep the back lcd off. I use digital preview to check my exposure and to avoid pressing the replay button. But it's a trivial preference and I could just as well press the playback button instead, but somehow I got used to this thinking it keeps my sd cards less cluttered.

Not a Number · 02-10-2019, 12:16 PM

If the camera is set to save as JPEG only there is no way to convert the preview image to RAW or to save a Raw file.

aaacb · 02-10-2019, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by aaacb

I don't think there's a way to save as raw.

Thought I'd test that and I think I have a workaround:

1) set camera to shoot raw
2) digital preview, save the preview as jpeg with the AE-L button, there's no option to save directly as raw
3) without taking any other image or preview or powering off, go to the playback menu. You'll get an option to save the raw file from the camera's buffer (same AE-L button)

I have a k3ii with the latest firmware, no idea if this is possible on the k3.

02-09-2019, 01:33 PM	#1
Robot camera Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire Posts: 194	K3 saving digital preview as a RAW file I fairly often save my digital preview images, but find the camera saves them as a JPEG, when I want to save them as a RAW file. Is it possible to change this? I've had a good look through the manual and camera menus, to no avail. As the thread title says, the camera is a K3. The first version.

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02-09-2019, 01:43 PM	#2
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	What is the file type set to?

02-09-2019, 02:14 PM	#3
Robot camera Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire Posts: 194 Original Poster	When just taking photos, it's set to RAW. I cannot see where to set the file type of a saved digital preview image.

02-09-2019, 02:46 PM	#4
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	Originally posted by Robot camera When just taking photos, it's set to RAW. I cannot see where to set the file type of a saved digital preview image. I don't know what you mean by a digital preview image. If you mean what is embedded in the raw file, to see a representation of the image, that must be a jpg by definition. Last edited by UncleVanya; 02-09-2019 at 03:10 PM.

02-09-2019, 02:50 PM	#5
virusn3t Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 676	I dont remember exactly, but in the K1 on menu (the part with the camera) second tab, there the "camera adjust image" and in that menu the type of archive, type of RAW archive (DNG or PEF), and the space color....

02-09-2019, 03:02 PM	#6
Bengan Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,756	Your preview will be a JPEG. You will never view RAW data

02-09-2019, 04:52 PM	#7
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,198	I think he means saving the "Digital preview" that one gets as an alernative to "optical preview" using the DOF preview button. Never use digital preview, so cant help.

02-09-2019, 05:55 PM	#8
MrB1 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2013 Location: Hertfordshire, England Posts: 845	Unless anyone else knows a simpler method, you will probably have to follow through these steps: 1. Press AE-L to save your digital Preview image as a JPEG file. 2. Before doing anything else, press the Playback Button to review that JPEG on the rear screen. 3. Now pressing AE-L again will enable you to save the raw file. Philip

02-09-2019, 06:49 PM	#9
Larrymc Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississippi, USA Posts: 5,251	Originally posted by Robot camera When just taking photos, it's set to RAW. I cannot see where to set the file type of a saved digital preview image. Set your memory card options under camera menu 1 to write RAW to card 1 and JPEG to card 2. That will save your digital preview plus your RAW file.

02-09-2019, 08:14 PM - 1 Like	#10
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,198	Originally posted by MrB1 Unless anyone else knows a simpler method, you will probably have to follow through these steps My simpler method is not to use digital preview at all. I honestly don't see the point of it. Just take a picture instead

02-10-2019, 07:37 AM	#11
twilhelm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,369	As @pschlute stated. Take the shot, make adjustments and delete the original if desired.

02-10-2019, 07:55 AM - 1 Like	#12
StiffLegged Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,617	Originally posted by pschlute My simpler method is not to use digital preview at all. I honestly don't see the point of it. Just take a picture instead Some folk think it useful when checking RGB histograms which Live view doesn't support. I ended up turning it off since the preview's histograms don't accurately reflect the RAW file's RGB histograms and it all seemed like too much faffing about – and I faff about too much already. Anyway, depth of field checks in Live view are much more useful to me.

02-10-2019, 09:15 AM	#13
aaacb Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,724	I don't think there's a way to save as raw. Originally posted by pschlute My simpler method is not to use digital preview at all. I honestly don't see the point of it. Just take a picture instead Here's why I use it: I don't like having instant review on, and I keep the back lcd off. I use digital preview to check my exposure and to avoid pressing the replay button. But it's a trivial preference and I could just as well press the playback button instead, but somehow I got used to this thinking it keeps my sd cards less cluttered.

02-10-2019, 12:16 PM	#14
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	If the camera is set to save as JPEG only there is no way to convert the preview image to RAW or to save a Raw file.

02-10-2019, 12:29 PM	#15
aaacb Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,724	Originally posted by aaacb I don't think there's a way to save as raw. Thought I'd test that and I think I have a workaround: 1) set camera to shoot raw 2) digital preview, save the preview as jpeg with the AE-L button, there's no option to save directly as raw 3) without taking any other image or preview or powering off, go to the playback menu. You'll get an option to save the raw file from the camera's buffer (same AE-L button) I have a k3ii with the latest firmware, no idea if this is possible on the k3.