Pentax Kp And pentax Da 16 85

Riddler · 11-27-2019, 02:12 PM

Hello Guys

Newbie on this forum. Krijn is my name

I have a problem with the pentax Kp and the da 16 85
Turning the camera in I Hearst Some rattling sound
With other lenses I Dont have this noise

Sorry for poor english

aaacb · 11-27-2019, 02:26 PM

Welcome! Commonly some rattling noise comes from the sensor stabilization when the camera's powered off. Could it be that you tested the 16-85 with the camera off and the other lenses with the camera powered on?

Riddler · 11-27-2019, 02:33 PM

I Hear the noise sometimes very loud when I put the camera on

**aslyfox** · 11-27-2019, 02:33 PM

first question

was aaacb correct

if not

is the lens under any type of warranty

if under Pentax warranty send it in

Pentax Repair Facilities (Wordwide listing)

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/189-repairs-warranty-service/316284-pent...ml#post3566309

if under a third party warranty contact them and see what they want you to do

Riddler · 11-27-2019, 02:49 PM

Aaacb
isnt correct. No noise turning the camera off
Only camera turning on noise for a while
Dont know if IT is the body or the lense

Yes I have quarantee

C_Jones · 11-27-2019, 03:04 PM

An easy test would be to try the lens on another Pentax camera body (maybe at a Pentax dealer or something like that) to see if the same or a similar thing happens.

I have a Pentax 16-85 and I have never had a problem with it.

Riddler · 11-27-2019, 03:10 PM

My brother owns a Kp and there is NOT the noise

**mikesbike** · 11-27-2019, 03:17 PM

Welcome to the forum! Since there is no similar noise from your other lenses, are they autofocus lenses? I am thinking with your DA 16-85mm lens, something is happening when you turn on your camera and that lens's AF system engages. I suggest with the camera on, that you switch the camera control on the side from AF to MF then turn off the camera. After a short time, with the control still set to MF, turn on the camera to see if the noise still happens. If it does not happen, this means the lens's AF system is making the noise. It could also be some other problem with the lens.

I do not own that lens. Maybe that noise is normal for it. I chose the DA 18-135mm lens instead for its zoom range and its fast AF. I just now put it on my KP, and I can tell you it makes no significant noise when I turn on the camera. In fact it is very quiet- no noise.

MarkJerling · 11-27-2019, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Riddler

Hello Guys

Newbie on this forum. Krijn is my name

I have a problem with the pentax Kp and the da 16 85
Turning the camera in I Hearst Some rattling sound
With other lenses I Dont have this noise

Sorry for poor english

The rattling noise is most likely the camera's dust removal system working. It could be that the noise is more amplified with that particular lens. To help us check if that is the case, I suggest you take a video clip with your phone or another camera and post that to Youtube and link here, so we can hear what you hear.

Also, can you confirm if it makes this noise if you turn the camera on with no lens attached?

Kind regards,
Mark

**Kobie** · 11-27-2019, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by MarkJerling

The rattling noise is most likely the camera's shake reduction system working. It could be that the noise is more amplified with that particular lens. To help us check if that is the case, I suggest you take a video clip with your phone or another camera and post that to Youtube and link here, so we can hear what you hear.

Also, can you confirm if it makes this noise if you turn the camera on with no lens attached?

Kind regards,
Mark

Could it possibly be the dust removal option?
If mounting that lens on another KP produces no noise, then it's not the lens, so all there's left is your camera body.
Go into the menu (it's possible that your brother has Dust Removal turned off on startup so there'd be no noise), look for the dust removal option, and turn it off for both startup and shutdown (on and off).
Now try turning on the camera with the lens attached and see if you still hear any noises. Do you have horizon correction on? Composition adjustment? If so, turn those off as well. Basically, turn off anything that may cause the sensor to move (including Shake Reduction). If you can, look at your brothers KP settings in the menu and copy them on your camera to a custom user setting so the changes can be tested and removed afterwards (unless you want to keep his settings), is the noise still there or is it now gone?

PS: I notice in your post you say when you turn the camera "in", did you mean when powering it on, or when you rotate/angle the camera?

MarkJerling · 11-28-2019, 02:58 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kobie

Could it possibly be the dust removal option?
If mounting that lens on another KP produces no noise, then it's not the lens, so all there's left is your camera body.
Go into the menu (it's possible that your brother has Dust Removal turned off on startup so there'd be no noise), look for the dust removal option, and turn it off for both startup and shutdown (on and off).
Now try turning on the camera with the lens attached and see if you still hear any noises. Do you have horizon correction on? Composition adjustment? If so, turn those off as well. Basically, turn off anything that may cause the sensor to move (including Shake Reduction). If you can, look at your brothers KP settings in the menu and copy them on your camera to a custom user setting so the changes can be tested and removed afterwards (unless you want to keep his settings), is the noise still there or is it now gone?

PS: I notice in your post you say when you turn the camera "in", did you mean when powering it on, or when you rotate/angle the camera?

Sorry - that's what I wanted to say but I had a brain fart moment. I meant "dust removal".

**Kobie** · 11-28-2019, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by MarkJerling

Sorry - that's what I wanted to say but I had a brain fart moment. I meant "dust removal".

All good.

Riddler · 11-28-2019, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by Kobie

Could it possibly be the dust removal option?
If mounting that lens on another KP produces no noise, then it's not the lens, so all there's left is your camera body.
Go into the menu (it's possible that your brother has Dust Removal turned off on startup so there'd be no noise), look for the dust removal option, and turn it off for both startup and shutdown (on and off).
Now try turning on the camera with the lens attached and see if you still hear any noises. Do you have horizon correction on? Composition adjustment? If so, turn those off as well. Basically, turn off anything that may cause the sensor to move (including Shake Reduction). If you can, look at your brothers KP settings in the menu and copy them on your camera to a custom user setting so the changes can be tested and removed afterwards (unless you want to keep his settings), is the noise still there or is it now gone?

PS: I notice in your post you say when you turn the camera "in", did you mean when powering it on, or when you rotate/angle the camera?

Camera switch on

**Kobie** · 11-28-2019, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Riddler

Camera switch on

Okay, then follow what I mentioned in my last post regarding the Dust removal options.

11-27-2019, 02:12 PM	#1
Riddler Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 250	Pentax Kp And pentax Da 16 85 Hello Guys Newbie on this forum. Krijn is my name I have a problem with the pentax Kp and the da 16 85 Turning the camera in I Hearst Some rattling sound With other lenses I Dont have this noise Sorry for poor english

11-27-2019, 03:17 PM	#8
mikesbike Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Southeastern Michigan Posts: 4,549	Welcome to the forum! Since there is no similar noise from your other lenses, are they autofocus lenses? I am thinking with your DA 16-85mm lens, something is happening when you turn on your camera and that lens's AF system engages. I suggest with the camera on, that you switch the camera control on the side from AF to MF then turn off the camera. After a short time, with the control still set to MF, turn on the camera to see if the noise still happens. If it does not happen, this means the lens's AF system is making the noise. It could also be some other problem with the lens. I do not own that lens. Maybe that noise is normal for it. I chose the DA 18-135mm lens instead for its zoom range and its fast AF. I just now put it on my KP, and I can tell you it makes no significant noise when I turn on the camera. In fact it is very quiet- no noise. Last edited by mikesbike; 11-27-2019 at 03:26 PM.

11-27-2019, 04:12 PM	#9
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by Riddler Hello Guys Newbie on this forum. Krijn is my name I have a problem with the pentax Kp and the da 16 85 Turning the camera in I Hearst Some rattling sound With other lenses I Dont have this noise Sorry for poor english The rattling noise is most likely the camera's dust removal system working. It could be that the noise is more amplified with that particular lens. To help us check if that is the case, I suggest you take a video clip with your phone or another camera and post that to Youtube and link here, so we can hear what you hear. Also, can you confirm if it makes this noise if you turn the camera on with no lens attached? Kind regards, Mark Last edited by MarkJerling; 11-28-2019 at 02:57 AM. Reason: Brain fade moment.

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11-27-2019, 02:26 PM	#2
aaacb Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,725	Welcome! Commonly some rattling noise comes from the sensor stabilization when the camera's powered off. Could it be that you tested the 16-85 with the camera off and the other lenses with the camera powered on?

11-27-2019, 02:33 PM	#3
Riddler Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 250 Original Poster	I Hear the noise sometimes very loud when I put the camera on

11-27-2019, 02:33 PM	#4
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	first question was aaacb correct if not is the lens under any type of warranty if under Pentax warranty send it in Pentax Repair Facilities (Wordwide listing) https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/189-repairs-warranty-service/316284-pent...ml#post3566309 if under a third party warranty contact them and see what they want you to do

11-27-2019, 02:49 PM	#5
Riddler Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 250 Original Poster	Aaacb isnt correct. No noise turning the camera off Only camera turning on noise for a while Dont know if IT is the body or the lense Yes I have quarantee

11-27-2019, 03:04 PM	#6
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,088	An easy test would be to try the lens on another Pentax camera body (maybe at a Pentax dealer or something like that) to see if the same or a similar thing happens. I have a Pentax 16-85 and I have never had a problem with it.

11-27-2019, 03:10 PM	#7
Riddler Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 250 Original Poster	My brother owns a Kp and there is NOT the noise

11-27-2019, 08:14 PM	#10
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by MarkJerling The rattling noise is most likely the camera's shake reduction system working. It could be that the noise is more amplified with that particular lens. To help us check if that is the case, I suggest you take a video clip with your phone or another camera and post that to Youtube and link here, so we can hear what you hear. Also, can you confirm if it makes this noise if you turn the camera on with no lens attached? Kind regards, Mark Could it possibly be the dust removal option? If mounting that lens on another KP produces no noise, then it's not the lens, so all there's left is your camera body. Go into the menu (it's possible that your brother has Dust Removal turned off on startup so there'd be no noise), look for the dust removal option, and turn it off for both startup and shutdown (on and off). Now try turning on the camera with the lens attached and see if you still hear any noises. Do you have horizon correction on? Composition adjustment? If so, turn those off as well. Basically, turn off anything that may cause the sensor to move (including Shake Reduction). If you can, look at your brothers KP settings in the menu and copy them on your camera to a custom user setting so the changes can be tested and removed afterwards (unless you want to keep his settings), is the noise still there or is it now gone? PS: I notice in your post you say when you turn the camera "in", did you mean when powering it on, or when you rotate/angle the camera?

11-28-2019, 02:58 AM - 1 Like	#11
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,406	Originally posted by Kobie Could it possibly be the dust removal option? If mounting that lens on another KP produces no noise, then it's not the lens, so all there's left is your camera body. Go into the menu (it's possible that your brother has Dust Removal turned off on startup so there'd be no noise), look for the dust removal option, and turn it off for both startup and shutdown (on and off). Now try turning on the camera with the lens attached and see if you still hear any noises. Do you have horizon correction on? Composition adjustment? If so, turn those off as well. Basically, turn off anything that may cause the sensor to move (including Shake Reduction). If you can, look at your brothers KP settings in the menu and copy them on your camera to a custom user setting so the changes can be tested and removed afterwards (unless you want to keep his settings), is the noise still there or is it now gone? PS: I notice in your post you say when you turn the camera "in", did you mean when powering it on, or when you rotate/angle the camera? Sorry - that's what I wanted to say but I had a brain fart moment. I meant "dust removal".

11-28-2019, 11:39 AM	#12
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by MarkJerling Sorry - that's what I wanted to say but I had a brain fart moment. I meant "dust removal". All good.

11-28-2019, 12:22 PM	#13
Riddler Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 250 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kobie Could it possibly be the dust removal option? If mounting that lens on another KP produces no noise, then it's not the lens, so all there's left is your camera body. Go into the menu (it's possible that your brother has Dust Removal turned off on startup so there'd be no noise), look for the dust removal option, and turn it off for both startup and shutdown (on and off). Now try turning on the camera with the lens attached and see if you still hear any noises. Do you have horizon correction on? Composition adjustment? If so, turn those off as well. Basically, turn off anything that may cause the sensor to move (including Shake Reduction). If you can, look at your brothers KP settings in the menu and copy them on your camera to a custom user setting so the changes can be tested and removed afterwards (unless you want to keep his settings), is the noise still there or is it now gone? PS: I notice in your post you say when you turn the camera "in", did you mean when powering it on, or when you rotate/angle the camera? Camera switch on

11-28-2019, 01:35 PM	#14
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by Riddler Camera switch on Okay, then follow what I mentioned in my last post regarding the Dust removal options.