Prompted by various threads on the Forum wondering about the quality of non-OEM camera batteries, along with conversations with forum member jon.partsch (and his great account of adventures rebuilding and measuring batteries:
Wasabi battery pack rebuild - PentaxForums.com ) I have run discharge curves for all the batteries I have at hand. This includes the batteries for my K-1/K-3, Q7, and Canon G15.
The short version is that the OEM batteries I have, all of which have been used for several years or more, perform close to original specifications, whereas the one non-OEM battery tested falls well below its OEM counterpart, and much below its claimed capacity.
Since my first round of such measurements (
Some Pentax D-LI90 Battery Charge/Discharge Measurements - PentaxForums.com), I have acquired a very nice voltage logger (
HOBO UX120 4-Channel Analog Data Logger - UX120-006M) so I no longer have to write down voltages and times. The logger reads and stores voltages from 0 to 2.5 V, with a precision of 40 microvolts. Since all the camera batteries have higher output voltages, I used simple resistive voltage dividers to put the voltage in the correct range for the logger. The dividers have typical resistances of 20K to 100K ohms, so they have essentially no effect on the battery discharge current. I set the logger to take a data point every 30 or 60 seconds.
I made several battery holders with spring-loaded contacts so I could connect the batteries to the logger. Since I know the load resistance to which the batteries are connected for the drain measurement, I can calculate the current being drawn from the battery by Ohms law (current = volts/resistance), and by summing up all the measurements for the relevant time intervals, determine the milliamp hours (mAh) that the battery can provide.
Here are a pictures of some of the test jigs (some with batteries):
Pentax D-LI90
Pentax D-LI68
Canon NB-10L
Generally, batteries were charged in the relevant OEM charger to full charge. In most cases, the battery was removed from the charger for a few minutes and inserted once again, until the charger deemed that the battery was again fully charged. The discharge measurements started within minutes of that final charge.
Pentax D-LI90 Batteries
I have three of these (genuine Pentax) batteries. They are dated 201102, 201306, and 201601, and probably arrived with my K-5 (March 2011), K-3 (March 2014), and K-1 (July 2016) respectively. Somewhere back in the K-5 era, I bought an extra, which went with the K-5 when it was sold.
Originally, I was drawing current from these batteries at a ~150-250 milliamps (mA) with load resistors of 30 to 50 ohms. However, after discussions with Jon.Partsch and seeing his table of current drain values in his and my references above, I lowered my load resistors to 12.7 ohms, so that typical current draws were more like 500-600 mA. Actually, the batteries performed similarly (i.e. same number of mAh) independently of load. This behavior is better than that observed for the non-OEM Vivitar battery discussed below.
All three of these batteries, despite their ages, perform very closely to specification. The batteries are rated at 1860 mAh (or 14 Wh). In my last data runs, with the 12.7 ohm resistors, when drawn down to 6.0 volts, the batteries performed as:
Battery | | | Measured | Measured | |
Date Code | | | (mAh) | (Wh) | |
| | | | | |
201102 | | | 1872 | 13.6 | |
201306 | | | 1844 | 13.3 | |
201601 | | | 1826 | 13.2 | |
The oldest battery actually marginally exceeded its mAh specification! The others are just a bit below spec.
Based on the number of exposures which have been taken by my K-3 and K-1 cameras, I estimate that each of these batteries has probably undergone somewhere between 100 and 200 charge cycles. All the batteries get rotated at random between the cameras, and have usually been used until the camera battery indicator shows less than full charge.
Bottom line: Pentax OEM D-LI90 batteries, even as much as 10 years old and after a couple of hundred charge cycles, perform very close to original specifications.
Here are two plots showing voltage versus time for all three batteries for 12.7 ohm and 30 ohm loading (sorry about the color change between plots!):
Pentax D-LI68 Batteries
These are used in my Pentax Q7. I have two OEM (Pentax) batteries, which are approaching 6 years old (my Q7 was acquired in July 2015). There is no date indication on the batteries, and I do not remember which is the original with the camera and which one I bought shortly thereafter. The Q7 has taken not quite 1100 exposures, so these batteries have probably fewer than 10-20 charge/discharge cycles on them. These batteries and those for the Canon G15 have generally not been discharged in use as deeply as the D-LI90s, which means not much at all
These were discharged through a 30 ohm resistor, so the current draw was around 120 mA (perhaps a bit light compared to actual draw in the camera?). Each battery was run twice. The results, for a discharge to around 2.90 volts, are
Battery | Run | | mAh | | Wh | |
| | | | | | |
1 | 1 | | 988 | | 3.6 | |
| 2 | | 940 | | 3.4 | |
| | | | | | |
2 | 1 | | 925 | | 3.3 | |
| 2 | | 888 | | 3.2 | |
The specification for the D-LI68 are 1000 mAh (typical), 940 mAh (minimum) and 3.4 Wh. Battery 1 meets these specifications, while battery 2 seems to be a bit low.
I think this is not bad for a couple of 6-year old batteries.
Canon NB-10L and Vivitar VIV CB-10L batteries
These are used by my Canon G15 camera, which was acquired in April of 2013, so the Canon battery is about 8 years old. The Vivitar may be a year or so younger. The Canon has taken more than 4600 pictures. The batteries have probably been through 30-50 charge/discharge cycles.
These batteries were discharged through various loads, most typically 50 ohms, but the Vivitar was also tested with 12.7 ohms and 30 ohms. I have no idea how the relevant discharge currents relate to actual loading in the camera.
For the Canon NB-10L battery, the results are
Run | | discharge level | | mAh | | Wh | |
1 | | 6.04 volts | | 874 | | 6.5 | |
2 | | 6.06 volts | | 847 | | 6.4 | |
The battery is rated by Canon at 920 mAh / 6.8 Wh . So, my data show the battery to be somewhat below rated, but not too far, for an 8-year old battery. Not too bad, I think.
For the Vivitar VIV CB-10L battery, with the 50 ohm load, my results are
Run | discharge level | | mAh | | Wh | |
1 | 5.80 volts | | 337 | | 2.4 | |
2 | 5.95 volts | | 596 | | 4.3 | |
I don’t know why these are so different, but both are much below the Canon (and Vivitar's rating - see below).
And, for some heavier loads:
Run | discharge level | | load resistance | | mAh | | Wh | |
3 | 6.02 volts | | 12.7 ohms | | 199 | | 1.3 | |
4 | 6.01 volts | | 30 ohms | | 358 | | 2.6 | |
The Vivitar does not seem to do well under heavier loads.
Vivitar rates this battery at 1300 mAh, which seems very optimistic when compared to the same-size Canon battery, and wildly optimistic compared to my measurements!
So, for my rather small sample, it seems that Pentax and Canon OEM batteries supply very nearly their rated mAh, even when they are as much as 10 years old. On the other hand, the Vivitar battery appears to be both over-rated and have not nearly the mAh rating claimed by its vendor.
I would be glad to measure and report on any batteries sent to me, as well as consult on how you might make similar measurements.