Originally posted by pschlute They are two entirely different auto-focus systems.
Yes, absolutely.
Originally posted by Bob 256 Liveview will show the image just as the sensor sees it so it's the ultimate in obtaining correct focus.
Yes, and.... no. Theoretically, CDAF should give a perfect focus, especially when the camera stops down the lens aperture while doing its CDAF routine. Practically, there are a few things that contribute to a focus error in live view mode that does not occur with PDAF. 1) There is no second focus tweak with CDAF as it's done with PDAF (focus confirm step with a last tweak of lens AF), CDAF approximate where the focus should be by doing calculation of focus position based on the amount of blur calculated from a few frames taken randomly while spinning the lens focus motor, there is a always a residual error due to interpolation, CDAF can only guess where best focus is via interpolating a sharpness indicator from image captures. 2) Depending on camera drive mode and exposure settings, CDAF is done with the lens aperture stopped down, e.g f11, f16 for a f2.8 lens, this eliminate focus shift from aperture but this also increase the depth of field making CDAF frames interpolation less precise compared to interpolation from a lens aperture wide open. You may want to re-focus one or two times in live view mode to reduce the residual focus error to a lower value than its first focus routine. 3) CDAF interpolation is not as good near infinity or at infinity because it can't interpolate from two values in front of subject and behind subject to reach a minimum error goal. Near infinity , interpolation is from front of subject frames only, so it would tend to be less precise than PDAF for subjects near infinity.
Originally posted by Gerbermiester It is unlikely that live view is giving you an incorrect focusing information.
Yes and no, every servo loop has a residual error based on how much time is given for the servo to reduce the residual focus error. The longer the time given for the CDAF optimization the better but only to a point where residual error become random and the subject distance may have changed (like noise, the focus error measured by the system become small and inconsistent with the actual focus error, that the maximum resolution of the system). So, there is a tradeoff between speed and residual focus error for both PDAF and CDAF, and none is able to give perfect focus. On my K1 CDAF, in low light, with macro lens, if CDAF isn't able to find a focus plane, it does a second routine going much slower... different speeds for difference situations...
Originally posted by claytoncramer I turn off Live View and focus through the view finder and the focus point is slightly different. Any ideas?
It is entirely possible and I could also experience this. You may refocus more than one time on the subject with CDAF to achieve better focus, and ultimately the very best focus is achieved by manually tweaking the lens while looking a x16 zoom in liveview mode + while closing aperture with DoF preview function to also eliminate focus shift from aperture, i.e tweak the lens focus at the same aperture as the aperture that will be used for the exposure.
Last edited by biz-engineer; 09-17-2021 at 10:52 AM.