Originally posted by MESuperian What fascinates me is that forty or fifty years ago Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus and Minolta all battled each other for consumer dollars, and each had different lens mounts, but the sensor (35mm film) was shared by all players.
Even then a fast fifty was the mainstay of the market. The common primes were 12, 24, 28, 35, of course the 50, 85, 135, and 200.
It’s always been true, that when you buy new you get what you pay for.
My mainstay camera and lens is an Olympus M5.2 with a 12-40 f2.8 Pro lens that when new cost a thousand for the camera and a thousand for the lens.
I also own an Olympus P-5 with an f1.8 17mm prime and VF-4 viewfinder that cost $1,500 new as a package.
Neither of those cameras are worth a hoot tracking a moving subject.
I also own a Canon T5i with STM kit lens, a 24mm STM prime, and 55-250 STM telephoto. It has excellent tracking autofocus for the few times I want that.
But I’ve had an epiphany recently about Pentax, and because of this:
Olympus is releasing a $2,000 new camera that I can use all my MFT lenses on plus adapt all my legacy glass to.
And if I give my current MFT cameras good light I’d not be able to tell much difference.
But if I spend $1,800 new (or $1,000 used) for a Pentax K1.2 body and another thousand for a new high end Pentax Fast Fifty the only step above that in image quality,,,
Is a Pentax medium frame digital.
And every medium frame Pentax lens on the market adapts to the K-x I now own or the K1.2 I will own.
MFT has advantages over APC and full frame. They are light, and I can spend $3,000 on an Olympus f4 300mm and get the same reach as a 600mm full frame lens. And there are advantages to mirrorless cameras. The live view is extremely good. Video is awesome, if I shot much video.
But for about the price of 27 spools of barbed wire ($2,300) I can and will own a Pentax K1.2 with a top end Pentax fast fifty prime.
The advantages of a K1 are they’ll shoot every lens Pentax ever made for an ILC camera, with infinity focus, and you get an optical viewfinder.
What Pentax really needs, is a $500 full frame starter camera, I think.
I think digital cameras are moving upscale. Brands may continue to have cheaper options, but they are going to cripple them in all sorts of ways. 650 dollars cameras are the new 500 dollar cameras. As far as I know, the cheapest Nikon APS-C mirrorless camera is the Z-50 which is going for around 1000 dollars on B and H.
I do get a bit aggravated when people claim that micro four thirds doubles the length of their lenses. Micro four thirds doesn't change the length of lenses at all it only crops the view you see with said lenses. If the pixel density is higher with micro four thirds you will get a bit more detail. It would take about 75 megapixels on a full frame sensor to get to the same pixel density as 20 megapixel micro four thirds. While that doesn't exist right now, the A7r IV is over 60 megapixels and if you crop its images down you won't find huge differences between it and your 20 megapixel micro four thirds camera. My expectation is that Pentax will probably move up a bit with regard to megapixels when they release a K-1 II sequel down the road.
Originally posted by Sidney Porter To the OP.
It sounds like you are looking to collect older full frame lenses for an eventual purchase of a k1 or k1ii. I personally do not have those cameras but in reading threads around here it seems the sensor in those cameras out resolve the lenses. It seems like a lot of members tried to get by with their old stuff but then upgraded
I really think the "out resolves the sensor" issue isn't a big deal. Most older lenses perform quite well stopped down. If you want wide open performance, you do have to pay more for that. The star lenses have always had top notch quality, but their prices aren't nearly as low on the used market as more consumer level lenses.
Obviously there is a big range of quality, from a cheap 50 f1.7 to the DFA *50, but f8 is a great leveler of performance.