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12-24-2008, 05:42 AM   #31
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This is my second response and I had vioted yes. It is a 'yes' given your experience. Some are saying you eventually would switch so why bother ?....having bought a dslr, I would think you would eventually change, but the IDEAL path IMO towards that growth is through the 18-250. It will be world of difference to you at this stage. then you can expand.

I got my 18-250 first, LOVED IT. Bought the 10-20 after that for landscape and love it, then the sigma 100-300 for nature with the 1.4 TC, and love this. Then to really kick it up a notch, I got the FA 43/1.9 LTD, after about 10,000 shots. Now the 43 stays on my camera, the 18-250 may never ever be mounted on my camera again. But, this in no way means I should have bought the 43 to start off. The 18-250 is the ideal beginner lens to learn everything including the focal lengths you prefer. The 43 is not a point and shoot lens, you really have to think it through with the DOF. I am glad I chose the 18-250 first eventhough I may never use it agian. I will recommend the same to you.

12-24-2008, 09:24 AM   #32
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The way that I see it, my 18-250 cannot be replaced. Sure, I use my Sigma 24-60 a lot more, and I really love my fixed focal lengths as well (either 50mm or 30mm). But at the end of the day, when I have to decide what lens is coming with me on a trip, to capture all the fun memories, the 18-250 is always with me.
Other lenses will produce better results under certain circumstances, but the reality is this...the 18-250 lets me get shots that I normally would have missed.
12-24-2008, 10:49 AM   #33
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I have to say, I think that if you're going to be backpacking with this body/lens
combo, then weather-sealing is of utmost importance, IMO.

I'd consider this:

K200D + Pentax DA* 16-50 f/2.8 + M 200 f/4

The M 200 f/4 is so small/light that it can be carried as an afterthought for when
you really want some telephoto. It's juts a very sharp, light MF long telephoto
lens.

The DA* 16-50 is a travel dream - f/2.8 is available, don't have to worry about
dust/rain/fog, super sharp for a zoom (best in class, IMO,) rich colors, contrast,
very nice.

But it's not the lightest.

Maybe think of your situation this way - where else can I save ounces to
make up for the weight difference between the 18-250 and 16-50?

because, IMO, it would be worth it to do that.

I took a driving trip from California to Minneapolis this past Spring with the 16-50
& 50-135. Went through Zion, Colorado Rockies, etc. Here are some 16-50 shots
in the American West.


There's a guy selling his 16-50 in the Mpls Craigslist for $400, if you can convince
him break it out of a package.

If you have doubts about the M 200 f/4, PM me and you can borrow mine for a little
while to try it out - MF isn't for everyone. (I live in Mpls also.)

(and I like your quickie shell script to determine FL's. I run Cygwin with Perl and
use exiftool to get similar stats with quickie perl scripts just like that.)

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12-24-2008, 01:21 PM   #34
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QuoteOriginally posted by jsherman999 Quote
The M 200 f/4 is so small/light that it can be carried as an afterthought for when
you really want some telephoto. It's juts a very sharp, light MF long telephoto
lens.
The M 200/4 has the lowest resolution of all the lenses considered in a Tests of Classic Pentax Lenses.
If it is "very sharp" then I think the 18-250 is at least very sharp as well. Unfortunately, the resolution figures cannot be compared directly, but given my experiences with the M135/3.5 so far, I wouldn't expect the M200/4 to be a step up from the 18-250.

Its worth a try comparing the two lenses, but if weight is a concern then I don't think adding the M200/4 makes a lot of sense, even though it is small and light for its focal length.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
The M 200/4 has the lowest resolution of all the lenses considered in a Tests of Classic Pentax Lenses.
If it is "very sharp" then I think the 18-250 is at least very sharp as well. Unfortunately, the resolution figures cannot be compared directly, but given my experiences with the M135/3.5 so far, I wouldn't expect the M200/4 to be a step up from the 18-250.

Its worth a try comparing the two lenses, but if weight is a concern then I don't think adding the M200/4 makes a lot of sense, even though it is small and light for its focal length.
I've owned both (well, I've owned the Tamron 18-250, same lens) and the M 200 f/4 was a tad sharper than the 18-250 at 200mm and same f/stops - at least with my copy.

And of course, the 18-250 doesn't have f/4 available at 200mm.

But it's just a suggestion - I've found it works great for me that even if I don't think I'll need a telephoto, I throw it in the bag and it occasionally gets put on the camera.


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12-24-2008, 10:25 PM   #36
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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
given my experiences with the M135/3.5 so far, I wouldn't expect the M200/4 to be a step up from the 18-250.
I don't consider the M200/4 to be a step up from the M135/3.5 at all when it comes to IQ. And as for size/weight, it might be impressive compared to other 200/4 lenses, but it's still huge compared to the M135/3.5, or the DA50-200, and of course limited in versatility compared to the DA55-300 or a 70-300. If I were carrying another lens for general use (wide-to-normal-to-short-telephoto) and wanted to add a small/light telephoto lens to my backpack for occasional use, the M200/4 would not be my first choice - or my second, or third, or fourth...
12-25-2008, 12:36 PM   #37
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Everyone,

Thanks so much again for all your help. I placed an order for the K200d and the proposed 18-250 lens yesterday; it should be here on the 29th. I also have an M42 screw-mount adapter coming.

I found the opinions of those who didn't think it was the right choice useful as well, because they helped define the space of things to consider and enumerate the reasons why it might not be the right choice.

All in all, I feel surprisingly confident that I made the right move given that I just spent nearly $1000 on what for me is a toy. I look forward to posting some images in the Critique section in the coming months.

Thanks,

Reid
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You remind me of myself about 9 months ago. I too was upgrading from a prosumer P&S and ended up getting the K20D and 18-250mm. I think what a lot of people of people have not mentioned is the need to "grow" with your body/lens combo.

As a P&S shooter, I was shooting mostly wide...but that was basically because I didn't have the equipment to take other types of shots. What the 18-250mm did was it gave my photographic eye free reign to compose spontaneously as I saw best. And it did so at a image quality far better than any P&S I had before. With time, I ended up taking photos from a much more balanced range of focal lengths.

I suspect that you will stay that way until you develop higher demands for low light performance. At which point, Pentax has great primes in the wide, normal and short tele range. And for longer tele photos, there are lots of faster zooms out there.

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