Uploaded images turn dark

**Bob 256** · 03-25-2023, 11:26 AM - **1 Like**

Getting back to the original question, I believe the "images" you're talking about are still photos since you mentioned jpeg and RAW files? I think some here might be assuming these are movie files. This has to be an issue with your photo software since, once taken, a still photo cannot change from lighter to darker. These aren't HDR photos by any chance (a setting on your camera) and your software is showing the different exposures when you open the file? Have you tried another type of software to see if it does the same thing?

35mmfilmfan · 03-25-2023, 12:05 PM

Do you, by any chance, have your display set up so that images deemed by Windows to be 'too bright' are automatically darkened to avoid eye-strain ? I have a vague memory of this setting causing problems to someone before.

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**AstroDave** · 03-26-2023, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan

Do you, by any chance, have your display set up so that images deemed by Windows to be 'too bright' are automatically darkened to avoid eye-strain ? I have a vague memory of this setting causing problems to someone before.

This sounds like it might be the problem.

It would be great for us to get our hands on one of your frames that "turns dark." If you can not post it (the actual image file) somewhere yourself, let me know - I have available web space that could easily accomodate several of your straight-out-of-the-camera frames and make them available to the gurus here.

Dianne Dawson · 03-26-2023, 10:32 PM

Thanks everyone for your help.
I was trying to upload the latest firmware, but it didn't work for me so I took the camera to CRK in Perth to help. They tried in front of me but it didn't work for them, they will try again later today, but if all fails with them they will send it away to get the latest firmware.
Once this is done I will tackle the photo app problem and hopefully the problem will be solved.
Thanks again everyone I really appreciated your input and time.
Cheers

Lord Lucan · 03-27-2023, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by Dianne Dawson

when I viewed them on my computer both images changed within 2 seconds. It's almost like the photo app is trying to change the image. So from all these discussions I'm thinking its a computer problem rather than a camera problem.

Sounds like a software problem, not a computer problem. Software trying to be too clever for its own good is a common problem. Whoever wrote it would probably say it is not a bug, it's a feature

Originally posted by Dianne Dawson

As I am a beginner/enthusiast I'm not planning on spending a lot of money on an editing program as yet.
... all I need is a program on my computer that doesn't change how my photos look from my camera to the screen.

I don't know about Windows, but I'm sure it has a simple picture viewer which others have pointed you to. I suggest that whatever you have been using instead needs ditching. For a picture editing (as opposed to simple viewing) program that is good enough for anything outside the printing industry I suggest GIMP https://www.gimp.org/. It is available for Windows, Mac and Linux, and it is free; I use it all the time.

**photogem** · 03-27-2023, 02:30 AM

I had this problem 3 x being not able to update the firmware.
All had no serial number!
In all 3 cases this was because the Pentax body was a testsample sent to special people to test it before the DSLR would hit the market.
I still have one of them, an *ist DS. I can't even do it via its Debug-Menu!

The menu had a specific unusual difference:
To allow aperture-ring Yes was on Pos. 1 and not 2 as usual!

The other was a K-S2 and the I can't remember anymore.

So it could be you got one of those. Were did you buy it from?

romay · 03-27-2023, 09:36 AM

Do you by any chance use a transparent USB cable? You may want to switch to a dark one for uploading RAWs to prevent them from being exposed during transfer.

OrchidJulie · 03-27-2023, 04:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by romay

Do you by any chance use a transparent USB cable? You may want to switch to a dark one for uploading RAWs to prevent them from being exposed during transfer.

Seriously? I bet all your images were out of focus after you dropped the film cans.

**photogem** · 03-27-2023, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by romay

Do you by any chance use a transparent USB cable? You may want to switch to a dark one for uploading RAWs to prevent them from being exposed during transfer.

Can you explain why the external transparent coating would interfere with the data-transfer.
I tried to find something about it but couldn't find any results.
Reading your comment I first thought "what nonsense" but then I guessed that you must have found out something most people wouldn't consider.

pschlute · 03-28-2023, 02:21 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by photogem

Can you explain why the external transparent coating would interfere with the data-transfer.
I tried to find something about it but couldn't find any results.
Reading your comment I first thought "what nonsense" but then I guessed that you must have found out something most people wouldn't consider.

I think the poster was having a little joke. Granted, it is a little early for April Fools Day

Lord Lucan · 03-28-2023, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by pschlute

I think the poster was having a little joke.

A bit out of place I thought, as the OP with the question identified as a beginner.

03-27-2023, 02:30 AM	#21
photogem Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 3,524	I had this problem 3 x being not able to update the firmware. All had no serial number! In all 3 cases this was because the Pentax body was a testsample sent to special people to test it before the DSLR would hit the market. I still have one of them, an ist DS. I can't even do it via its Debug-Menu! The menu had a specific unusual difference: To allow aperture-ring Yes was on Pos. 1 and not 2 as usual! The other was a K-S2 and the I can't remember anymore. So it could be you got one of those. Were did you buy it from? Last edited by photogem; 03-27-2023 at 02:44 AM.*

03-27-2023, 04:54 PM - 1 Like	#23
OrchidJulie Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Magic City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,999	Originally posted by romay Do you by any chance use a transparent USB cable? You may want to switch to a dark one for uploading RAWs to prevent them from being exposed during transfer. Seriously? I bet all your images were out of focus after you dropped the film cans. Last edited by OrchidJulie; 03-28-2023 at 07:46 AM.

03-27-2023, 11:14 PM	#24
photogem Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 3,524	Originally posted by romay Do you by any chance use a transparent USB cable? You may want to switch to a dark one for uploading RAWs to prevent them from being exposed during transfer. Can you explain why the external transparent coating would interfere with the data-transfer. I tried to find something about it but couldn't find any results. Reading your comment I first thought "what nonsense" but then I guessed that you must have found out something most people wouldn't consider. Last edited by photogem; 03-27-2023 at 11:37 PM.

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03-25-2023, 11:26 AM - 1 Like	#16
Bob 256 Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,378	Getting back to the original question, I believe the "images" you're talking about are still photos since you mentioned jpeg and RAW files? I think some here might be assuming these are movie files. This has to be an issue with your photo software since, once taken, a still photo cannot change from lighter to darker. These aren't HDR photos by any chance (a setting on your camera) and your software is showing the different exposures when you open the file? Have you tried another type of software to see if it does the same thing?

03-25-2023, 12:05 PM	#17
35mmfilmfan Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 4,339	Do you, by any chance, have your display set up so that images deemed by Windows to be 'too bright' are automatically darkened to avoid eye-strain ? I have a vague memory of this setting causing problems to someone before. T

03-26-2023, 06:58 PM	#18
AstroDave Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 1,648	Originally posted by 35mmfilmfan Do you, by any chance, have your display set up so that images deemed by Windows to be 'too bright' are automatically darkened to avoid eye-strain ? I have a vague memory of this setting causing problems to someone before. This sounds like it might be the problem. It would be great for us to get our hands on one of your frames that "turns dark." If you can not post it (the actual image file) somewhere yourself, let me know - I have available web space that could easily accomodate several of your straight-out-of-the-camera frames and make them available to the gurus here.

03-26-2023, 10:32 PM	#19
Dianne Dawson New Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 3 Original Poster	Thanks everyone for your help. I was trying to upload the latest firmware, but it didn't work for me so I took the camera to CRK in Perth to help. They tried in front of me but it didn't work for them, they will try again later today, but if all fails with them they will send it away to get the latest firmware. Once this is done I will tackle the photo app problem and hopefully the problem will be solved. Thanks again everyone I really appreciated your input and time. Cheers

03-27-2023, 01:57 AM	#20
Lord Lucan Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: South Wales Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,978	Originally posted by Dianne Dawson when I viewed them on my computer both images changed within 2 seconds. It's almost like the photo app is trying to change the image. So from all these discussions I'm thinking its a computer problem rather than a camera problem. Sounds like a software problem, not a computer problem. Software trying to be too clever for its own good is a common problem. Whoever wrote it would probably say it is not a bug, it's a feature Originally posted by Dianne Dawson As I am a beginner/enthusiast I'm not planning on spending a lot of money on an editing program as yet. ... all I need is a program on my computer that doesn't change how my photos look from my camera to the screen. I don't know about Windows, but I'm sure it has a simple picture viewer which others have pointed you to. I suggest that whatever you have been using instead needs ditching. For a picture editing (as opposed to simple viewing) program that is good enough for anything outside the printing industry I suggest GIMP https://www.gimp.org/. It is available for Windows, Mac and Linux, and it is free; I use it all the time.

03-27-2023, 09:36 AM	#22
romay Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 113	Do you by any chance use a transparent USB cable? You may want to switch to a dark one for uploading RAWs to prevent them from being exposed during transfer.

03-28-2023, 02:21 AM - 1 Like	#25
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,216	Originally posted by photogem Can you explain why the external transparent coating would interfere with the data-transfer. I tried to find something about it but couldn't find any results. Reading your comment I first thought "what nonsense" but then I guessed that you must have found out something most people wouldn't consider. I think the poster was having a little joke. Granted, it is a little early for April Fools Day

03-28-2023, 02:48 AM	#26
Lord Lucan Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: South Wales Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,978	Originally posted by pschlute I think the poster was having a little joke. A bit out of place I thought, as the OP with the question identified as a beginner.