Link to smc F 50mm 1.4 wanted

**UncleVanya** · 05-11-2023, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by photogem

Interesting that you got no answer on this important question.

Post 18 and Post 19.

---------- Post added 05-11-23 at 10:24 PM ----------

Originally posted by pres589

Sorry, missed this.

You didn’t. You saw my answer and you agreed with what I said.

**photogem** · 05-11-2023, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Doormat

Update :
I’ve messaged the seller to ask for a return/refund.

I went out again tonight took a series of shots of the same subject ( boring, sorry ) A barcode label on a tree on the patio. I chose this for a few reasons
The barcode bars would indicate the sharpness at different apertures also instantly shows aberrations (black on white), plus it also tested the AF accuracy and also the out of focus background.

I used
1.4, 2, 2.8, 4, 5.6

1.4 was totally unusable
2 wasn’t much better
All 5 shots displayed fringing around the barcode lines

In short, it was terrible

I repeated this on a fence panel… lowest SS was 1/250th
every shot was out of focus despite the focus confirmation light being On

I realised it was hopeless, I’d never know if the shots were going to be in focus or not. So decided to commence with the return request.

Still not heard back ?

If necessary open an ebay-case! Upload the photos showing the damage.
And then keep an eye for the F50/1,7. It is cheaper and imo better. I never really got warm with the FA50/1,4 which is optically the same as the F-Version. Only the DA*55/1.4 is a tiny bit better but way more expensive, heavier, slow AF and tricky SDM-motor. Of course there is the D-FA, I don't have any experience with it.

**Doormat** · 05-12-2023, 01:20 AM

Update:
The seller has responded…

…..will give you a full refund for lens. You can keep it FOC but would ask you to give me a positive review on Ebay. After your rant against me I would ask you to acknowledge that the starter auction price was only £10 and therefore it was not a sham and my reviews with Ebay have been excellent….

My rant was pretty much justified as I had specifically messaged the seller for confirmation there were NO issues. He’s basically asking me to give false feedback. Rather than give negative feedback , I’d rather leave no feedback than give him positive feedback.

Your views would be appreciated please.

pschlute · 05-12-2023, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Doormat

Update:
The seller has responded…

…..will give you a full refund for lens. You can keep it FOC but would ask you to give me a positive review on Ebay. After your rant against me I would ask you to acknowledge that the starter auction price was only £10 and therefore it was not a sham and my reviews with Ebay have been excellent….

My rant was pretty much justified as I had specifically messaged the seller for confirmation there were NO issues. He’s basically asking me to give false feedback. Rather than give negative feedback , I’d rather leave no feedback than give him positive feedback.

Your views would be appreciated please.

Tell him you want a refund and will return the lens if he pays your postage. End of conversation.

**photogem** · 05-12-2023, 09:28 PM

Money back, keep lens, neutral feedback with details, such as:
"Lens was in badly damaged condition which photos didn't show but seller accepted full refund if I don't give him negative feedback."

**UncleVanya** · 05-13-2023, 05:33 AM

My opinion is that neutral feedback is fine. Just note that the condition wasn’t fully accurate and that the seller refunded the money.

**Doormat** · 05-13-2023, 09:39 AM - **1 Like**

Ok

I replied yesterday….

Hi
Sorry, but I’m not prepared to give false feedback, however rather than leave factual feedback and risk damaging your feedback score I’d prefer to leave no feedback.
The fact is, I specifically asked if there were any issues and you responded it was excellent!! So you either didn’t even bother to look or you just gave a reply to sell. I’m not sure which?

My guess is you’ve done this before?? The lens is no good to me so it can either be returned to you (if you send a return postage label) or I’ll drop it off at a charity shop with all the other stuff I have next time I go.

Please let me know either way today.

Nothing personal, I hope you have a good weekend

Kind regards

I haven’t had a reply as yet.

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05-11-2023, 07:23 PM	#31
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,472	Originally posted by photogem Interesting that you got no answer on this important question. Post 18 and Post 19. ---------- Post added 05-11-23 at 10:24 PM ---------- Originally posted by pres589 Sorry, missed this. You didn’t. You saw my answer and you agreed with what I said.

05-11-2023, 08:57 PM	#32
photogem Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 3,525	Originally posted by Doormat Update : I’ve messaged the seller to ask for a return/refund. I went out again tonight took a series of shots of the same subject ( boring, sorry ) A barcode label on a tree on the patio. I chose this for a few reasons The barcode bars would indicate the sharpness at different apertures also instantly shows aberrations (black on white), plus it also tested the AF accuracy and also the out of focus background. I used 1.4, 2, 2.8, 4, 5.6 1.4 was totally unusable 2 wasn’t much better All 5 shots displayed fringing around the barcode lines In short, it was terrible I repeated this on a fence panel… lowest SS was 1/250th every shot was out of focus despite the focus confirmation light being On I realised it was hopeless, I’d never know if the shots were going to be in focus or not. So decided to commence with the return request. Still not heard back ? If necessary open an ebay-case! Upload the photos showing the damage. And then keep an eye for the F50/1,7. It is cheaper and imo better. I never really got warm with the FA50/1,4 which is optically the same as the F-Version. Only the DA*55/1.4 is a tiny bit better but way more expensive, heavier, slow AF and tricky SDM-motor. Of course there is the D-FA, I don't have any experience with it.

05-12-2023, 01:20 AM	#33
Doormat Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2023 Posts: 287 Original Poster	Update: The seller has responded… …..will give you a full refund for lens. You can keep it FOC but would ask you to give me a positive review on Ebay. After your rant against me I would ask you to acknowledge that the starter auction price was only £10 and therefore it was not a sham and my reviews with Ebay have been excellent…. My rant was pretty much justified as I had specifically messaged the seller for confirmation there were NO issues. He’s basically asking me to give false feedback. Rather than give negative feedback , I’d rather leave no feedback than give him positive feedback. Your views would be appreciated please.

05-12-2023, 01:07 PM	#34
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	Originally posted by Doormat Update: The seller has responded… …..will give you a full refund for lens. You can keep it FOC but would ask you to give me a positive review on Ebay. After your rant against me I would ask you to acknowledge that the starter auction price was only £10 and therefore it was not a sham and my reviews with Ebay have been excellent…. My rant was pretty much justified as I had specifically messaged the seller for confirmation there were NO issues. He’s basically asking me to give false feedback. Rather than give negative feedback , I’d rather leave no feedback than give him positive feedback. Your views would be appreciated please. Tell him you want a refund and will return the lens if he pays your postage. End of conversation.

05-12-2023, 09:28 PM	#35
photogem Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 3,525	Money back, keep lens, neutral feedback with details, such as: "Lens was in badly damaged condition which photos didn't show but seller accepted full refund if I don't give him negative feedback."

05-13-2023, 05:33 AM	#36
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,472	My opinion is that neutral feedback is fine. Just note that the condition wasn’t fully accurate and that the seller refunded the money.

05-13-2023, 09:39 AM - 1 Like	#37
Doormat Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2023 Posts: 287 Original Poster	Ok I replied yesterday…. Hi Sorry, but I’m not prepared to give false feedback, however rather than leave factual feedback and risk damaging your feedback score I’d prefer to leave no feedback. The fact is, I specifically asked if there were any issues and you responded it was excellent!! So you either didn’t even bother to look or you just gave a reply to sell. I’m not sure which? My guess is you’ve done this before?? The lens is no good to me so it can either be returned to you (if you send a return postage label) or I’ll drop it off at a charity shop with all the other stuff I have next time I go. Please let me know either way today. Nothing personal, I hope you have a good weekend Kind regards I haven’t had a reply as yet.