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03-23-2009, 03:01 AM   #1
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The Usual lens question

Ok got primed into the DSLR world with a loan of a freinds e400, this made me buy one so i got the K200D with kit lens...

However I know i need some lenses, first off I want to get a good macro lens, on this front I could live with the manual focus ect on the lens.

The second lens I will be looking for is a larger zoom lens, I want this distance shooting say 200 to 300 (could someone post pics of diffenrances of focal on these lenses please) also not bothered if this is manual either, but will look at auto solutions as well.

Thanks in advance

03-23-2009, 04:33 AM   #2
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First off, what's your intended budget?
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QuoteOriginally posted by ftpaddict Quote
First off, what's your intended budget?
yep! true....

well....

cheap alternative:
FA 100mm macro 3,5
Da 55-300.

alternative if you can afford.
DA 100mm macro lens 2,8
DA 300mm 4f (or 70-200 FA 2,8)

good luck!
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2 very nice lenses but somewhat expensive are:
Sigma 70mm F2.8 macro - excellent lens for macro and regular shooting
Pentax DA 18-250 - is a rebadged tamron so if looking used, look for tamron 18-250 as well.

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Budget is the question here and thanks for pointing these out for me,

also on another note the first DSLR i used was a E400 (friends) it had a ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-54mm 1:2.8-3.5 lens, what is the closest pentax lens to it?
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Olympus has a 2x "crop factor", so the field of view of the 14-54 was similar to 28-108 in 35mm equivalent terms. Closest to that on Pentax be the Sigma 17-70, which works out to about 25-105 in 35mm equivalent and is also f/2.8 at the wide end.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Marc Sabatella Quote
Olympus has a 2x "crop factor", so the field of view of the 14-54 was similar to 28-108 in 35mm equivalent terms. Closest to that on Pentax be the Sigma 17-70, which works out to about 25-105 in 35mm equivalent and is also f/2.8 at the wide end.
17-70 would be actually more like 26-107mm (1.53x crop factor). The Pentax DA17-70/4 is also a nice lens.

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Thanks guys for the suggestions, looks like my new hobby is going to take over the old one in cost though
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Thanks guys for the suggestions, looks like my new hobby is going to take over the old one in cost though
You don't know the half of it...
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Thanks guys for the suggestions, looks like my new hobby is going to take over the old one in cost though
hehe... my wife thought railway models and modelling was the most expensive hobby. After looking at the lens prices she changed her mind
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QuoteOriginally posted by Madhatter Quote
Budget is the question here and thanks for pointing these out for me,

also on another note the first DSLR i used was a E400 (friends) it had a ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-54mm 1:2.8-3.5 lens, what is the closest pentax lens to it?
Zuiko 14-54 I is reasonable quality zoom and its resolution is quite impressive. The II version is even sharper in the corner as well.

For pentax counterpart zooms, there is no match unless you are looking at fa* 28-70 f2.8 (Da* 50-135/2.8 is not exactly in the focal range you are talking about but it is worthwhile to think about this zoom)

Da* 16-50 is nowhere as sharp as ZD 14-54/2.8 but the bokeh rendering is certainly far more superior than this zoom.
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yeh I think its a 2, it certianly was sharp, Also one more thing (sorry to keep asking a lot) I notice the big zooms are really expensive for good glass, but what if i go down the older lens route... what are the disadvantages, I know the plus is price, but what are the minuses (p.s I dont see manual focus or selecting ap as a minus)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Madhatter Quote
yeh I think its a 2, it certianly was sharp, Also one more thing (sorry to keep asking a lot) I notice the big zooms are really expensive for good glass, but what if i go down the older lens route... what are the disadvantages, I know the plus is price, but what are the minuses (p.s I dont see manual focus or selecting ap as a minus)
None. And THAT'S where the fun is for a lot of people with the DSLRs.

There is simply too much reasonably priced great old glass on Ebay for you to pass up, stuff where your wife WON'T think it's an expensive hobby.

For example, I'm film only, but I got a 50mm 1.4 Super-Tak for 60 bucks (70mm more or less effective for you). A 105mm 2.8 Super for 45 bucks. A 2.8 37mm Russian Mir for 60. A Vivitar 400m 5.6 (okay, not that fastest) for 70. And on and on and on.

The point is, if you throw out the auto focus and auto exposure requirements, and go primes, the world is your oyster with these old lenses at great prices.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Madhatter Quote
yeh I think its a 2, it certianly was sharp, Also one more thing (sorry to keep asking a lot) I notice the big zooms are really expensive for good glass, but what if i go down the older lens route... what are the disadvantages, I know the plus is price, but what are the minuses (p.s I dont see manual focus or selecting ap as a minus)
  • Manual-focus lenses don't report focal length so for best results SR focal length would need to set manually (particularly inconvenient for zooms). Also length won't appear in EXIF or be used to zoom an accessory flash head.
  • Manual-focus lenses won't be uniquely identified in EXIF metadata embedded in image files
  • The lenses that require selecting aperture on the aperture ring often don't expose as accurately (or conveniently)
  • They are somewhat limited in terms of shooting mode as well. Won't work in P,SV,Tv,TAv, and only some will work in Av.
  • They also don't show aperture in the viewfinder
  • May not be compatible with matrix metering or the built-in flash
  • Often don't include lens hoods
  • Often have rotating front elements (not polarizer-or-petal-hood friendly)
  • Focal lengths were usually designed for film so may not be as wide as you'd like on digital.
  • Minimum focus distance is often longer, or perhaps requires switching to a somewhat less convenient 'macro mode' to focus closely, perhaps limited to certain focal lengths

That being said, some can be quite useful anyway; for example, a typical 28-something zoom can be very handy for shooting people as they offer better telephoto reach than most designed-for-digital standard zooms.

So despite all these disadvantages, I've collected quite a few because I find them fun to use.
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