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06-20-2009, 01:52 PM   #1
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Hi everyone this is the first time I post in this forum, I need some advice. I want to buy a camera I have $2000.00 to spend. After hours and hours of research, reading reviews and ratings, I think Pentax is just what I need.
My question is, should I buy this set:

Pentax Body K20D $639.95
Pentax SMCP-DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 $749.95
Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC Macro $419.00
for a grand total of $1808.90

My other option:
Pentax K-7 $1300.00
Pentax SMCP-DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 $749.95
for a total of $2049.95

Is the K-7 worth paying double than the K20D? I am an amateur guy, mainly I want the camera for taking pictures of people, animals and everyday life stuff. Nothing specialized.
Any input is greatly appreciated.


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06-20-2009, 02:38 PM   #2
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Sigma 18-200mm f/2.8 EX DC Macro $419.00 did you mean 18-50?
I think its a good combo, but for the price i'd recommend some fast, normal price instead of 18-50. And maybe 18-55 kit lens for cheap, good wide, as you usually use wide for landscapes so aperture is some larger f-number (F4..8..11) anyways.

I'd be hesitant to buy k-7 since you cannot actually buy it yet. If your'e willing to wait, then you must wait for reasonable reviews and fedback anyways. Those then might give answer to your question about k7's worth.
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Thanks so much for the correction, you are right I meant sigma 18-50mm
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also consider the 16-45/4 instead of the sigma. it is not as fast, but considerably wider. your choices are very... classy , both cameras, and the lenses are really high end stuff (not only by pentax standards), and would serve most professionals with ease (and style). what's my point? maybe you might want to look at the k200d for instance as well, and get more glass for the rest of the money. don't get me wrong, i own the k20d and would only be without it when somebody pry's it form my stone-cold dead hands , but glass is really, honestly, more important. if you did your research and decided it's either the k20d or k-7 for your needs, ignore this.

i am unsure if the k-7 is worth it (for you), most people cannot be sure it is worth it for them, yet. read the previews, and especially falconeye's thread, to get more info on it and form an opinion at least on wheather you should wait or not untill it's out.

good luck! (and welcome)

ps: hours of research means you have only just begun. after a few weeks of research and countless sleepless night, you could try to hope for our simpathy, for now we can only provide some friendly help

06-20-2009, 04:02 PM   #5
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I would kill for that starting kit...

For the shooting you describe the K20 should fit the bill and that two lens combo should have you set for a while.
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Option 1.
It will leave a few bucks for bag, SD card and 6" minipod.
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thanks for your input

I think option number one makes better sense.
Maybe in a couple of years I will upgrade to a whatever is the newest camera from Pentax, for now I can learn to take pictures!
Thanks to all.
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Good choice.
Starting off with a K20D will leave plenty of room for growth in your photography journey.
The 200D would have probably sufficed also, but given your budget, the K20D would probably not make you feel wanting for years to come.

Lenses: that's where the money is... great choices again there. the constant f/2.8s you have your sights on are very versatile, or you could decide on replacing the Sigma 18-50 with a Pentax DA* 16-50, which is the same f/2.8 but has the extra couple of wide angle mms for those landscape shots you're after. Perhaps a little more expensive, but IMO worth it.

Tripod and grip would be good accessories to have, in case money is no object at this stage...

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I might wait a month or two and see if the prices drop a litlee bit after the K-7 comes out. I might get the Pentax DA 16-50mm.
I already have a nice sturdy tripod. About the grip I don't shot long hours I think an extra battery would do it for now.
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I would get the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 instead of the Pentax 16-45mm if you are going to be doing any indoor shooting of "people". I have the sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 and it is a really great lens for indoor event like conventions and other low light stuff.

The sigma is also great for landscape even though you don't use it at f/2.8. It is a lot sharper and better color then the stock lens.

As far as K20D vs K-7, I can't say. The K-7 has its own perks and I would get that only if you need them. The only thing that interest me in the K-7 is the video and the 5.2FPS. Even though I would like those two features I don't "need" them for what I do.

The K20D is an excellence camera. Look at the previews of what the K-7 offer and see if you need those extra features over the K20D.
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I think I am getting the K20D and the sigma too, is within my budget.
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If you are not in a rush I would wait a couple of weeks and see k7 reviews.

What it has to offer to my eyes is a lot more than the k20d: from people that have tried the samples, AF alone would be worth the upgrade from k20d (worth the double? don't think so).

The best would be to wait a bit that the prices go down and then jump on the k7 wagon.

Another interesting option would be:

- buy some very good glass
- buy an used camera for cheap (k100d, k10d, km) in order not to be without a camera till Xmas, and then for Xmas you'll get the k7 for a much better price.
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The K20D option looks good, unless you absolutely need the extra frames per second shooting speed or 1/8000s shutter speed, it makes no sense to pay double for the K-7; it has essentially the same sensor as the K-7, and is also weather sealed. Maybe later when the price of the K-7 comes down enough you can upgrade if you wish.

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I am a newbie too and bought my K100DS about 4 months ago. Initially, I plan to get the K20D; if the K7 is available then, it will no doubt be the one. I abandon plan after researching this forum.

You see, camera body is only one of many parts to this hobby! IMHO, lenses may actually play a more major role in the equation.

You plan to buy 'good' lenses. That's very good. But even with these 'good' lenses, you will soon want to buy more. And I assure you, it'll happen much much sooner than you can ever imagine.

You choose Pentax and Pentax has very good primes. I don't think you can resist them for long. You may just want to save on the body and reserve some money for future lens purchases. I'm assuming, you plan to keep to your budget of $2k for a period of 6 months or more.

My personal experience:

1) This hobby is so much more fun if you can try new things every now and then.

2) Lenses are more worth buying when compared to the bodies. Prices of bodies depreciate very fast. On the contrary, lens prices climb! You can experience it right now

3) Buy equipment and use them. Sometimes, it pays to buy them second hand: you tend to be over protective of brand new equipment and misses all the fun of using them!

4) When you buy second hand, you often use the equipment for free! Try it. Buy them, use them and then sell them. Even if you loose some money, they are often negligible

These are just my sharing
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Very good points, indeed! I never stoped to think about how cameras depreciate their value within a year of coming out. Lenses always go up.
Thanks for your comments.
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