Red looks orange?

qquake2k · 09-10-2009, 08:35 AM

Hi All,

I have a K200D, and I shoot a lot of product photos at work with it. I'm having trouble with a red item, though. No matter what I do, it looks orange. It's a red Cordura bag, shot against Savage tech green seamless background paper. The lighting is 3200k tungsten constant lights with white umbrellas. I set the white balance with a sheet of white poster board. I've tried adjusting the color in CS3, but it only changes the background, not the hue of the bag. Any ideas?

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flyer · 09-10-2009, 08:59 AM

On my screen, it looks more red than orange. Do you have a Pantone Swatch book to give us a color number as a reference? It would really help.

**jbinpg** · 09-10-2009, 09:02 AM

Definitely red, not orange, on my home and work monitors.

graphicgr8s · 09-10-2009, 09:13 AM

Looks like you used a chromascreen. Select it then select inverse use that to create a mask for an adjustment layer. Use an adjustment layer so you have complete control.

yeatzee · 09-10-2009, 09:43 AM

It looks red on my monitor as well

Marc Sabatella · 09-10-2009, 09:54 AM

Looking at the RGB values of the pixels, they are all in the neighborhood of 200-something R, and 0-5 G & B. That's about as red as an image can possibly be. If it's showing as too orange on your monitor, my guess is it's time to to calibrate it. You might also have your monitor brightness turned up too high - a very bright red is often often perceived as being somewhat warmer than it truly is. I'm thinking the green backgrond contributes to this illusion.

FullertonImages · 09-10-2009, 09:58 AM

Looks red to me. For starters, poster board usually isn't perfectly white, but I don't think that's your problem. It looks like the might be some red channel clipping in the first one and maybe the second, and they both seem kind of soft. Anyways, have you considered that your monitor needs to be calibrated? how do other things that are supposed to be that color look?

jeffkrol · 09-10-2009, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by qquake2k

Hi All,

I have a K200D, and I shoot a lot of product photos at work with it. I'm having trouble with a red item, though. No matter what I do, it looks orange. It's a red Cordura bag, shot against Savage tech green seamless background paper. The lighting is 3200k tungsten constant lights with white umbrellas. I set the white balance with a sheet of white poster board. I've tried adjusting the color in CS3, but it only changes the background, not the hue of the bag. Any ideas?

Cheaper LCD's do that.... Try printing and see what color it is....

kenyee · 09-10-2009, 10:24 AM

red to me as well on my calibrated laptop display...welcome to the world of color management ;-)

stevebrot · 09-10-2009, 10:53 AM

Looks red to me as well, though I don't have the original subject to compare it to. You might want to consider a neutral color background.

Steve

BTW...that is one serious looking first aid kit...

Jewelltrail · 09-10-2009, 02:20 PM

Yes, it is very red from here too.

gdog · 09-10-2009, 02:37 PM

Red,red,red

**David** · 09-10-2009, 03:00 PM

Red on Toshiba Qosmio G50 and Samsung 206BW extended monitor. Both screens calibrated with Eye-One-Match. In particular the Samsung results looks spot on given the other colours in the pack.

deadwolfbones · 09-10-2009, 04:01 PM

Reddddddddddddddd

J.Scott · 09-10-2009, 04:11 PM

Red for me too.

Helps to get rid of the green background.

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09-10-2009, 08:59 AM	#2
flyer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ste-Anne des Plaines, Qc., Canada Posts: 2,013	On my screen, it looks more red than orange. Do you have a Pantone Swatch book to give us a color number as a reference? It would really help.

09-10-2009, 09:02 AM	#3
jbinpg Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,546	Definitely red, not orange, on my home and work monitors.

09-10-2009, 09:13 AM	#4
graphicgr8s Guest	Looks like you used a chromascreen. Select it then select inverse use that to create a mask for an adjustment layer. Use an adjustment layer so you have complete control.

09-10-2009, 09:43 AM	#5
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	It looks red on my monitor as well

09-10-2009, 09:54 AM	#6
Marc Sabatella Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,685	Looking at the RGB values of the pixels, they are all in the neighborhood of 200-something R, and 0-5 G & B. That's about as red as an image can possibly be. If it's showing as too orange on your monitor, my guess is it's time to to calibrate it. You might also have your monitor brightness turned up too high - a very bright red is often often perceived as being somewhat warmer than it truly is. I'm thinking the green backgrond contributes to this illusion.

09-10-2009, 09:58 AM	#7
FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	Looks red to me. For starters, poster board usually isn't perfectly white, but I don't think that's your problem. It looks like the might be some red channel clipping in the first one and maybe the second, and they both seem kind of soft. Anyways, have you considered that your monitor needs to be calibrated? how do other things that are supposed to be that color look?

09-10-2009, 10:04 AM	#8
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Originally posted by qquake2k Hi All, I have a K200D, and I shoot a lot of product photos at work with it. I'm having trouble with a red item, though. No matter what I do, it looks orange. It's a red Cordura bag, shot against Savage tech green seamless background paper. The lighting is 3200k tungsten constant lights with white umbrellas. I set the white balance with a sheet of white poster board. I've tried adjusting the color in CS3, but it only changes the background, not the hue of the bag. Any ideas? Cheaper LCD's do that.... Try printing and see what color it is....

09-10-2009, 10:24 AM	#9
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	red to me as well on my calibrated laptop display...welcome to the world of color management ;-)

09-10-2009, 10:53 AM	#10
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Looks red to me as well, though I don't have the original subject to compare it to. You might want to consider a neutral color background. Steve BTW...that is one serious looking first aid kit...

09-10-2009, 02:20 PM	#11
Jewelltrail Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 4,180	Yes, it is very red from here too.

09-10-2009, 02:37 PM	#12
gdog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lydia Kavala Photos: Gallery Posts: 125	Red,red,red

09-10-2009, 03:00 PM	#13
David Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sandy Bay, Tasmania, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 347	Red on Toshiba Qosmio G50 and Samsung 206BW extended monitor. Both screens calibrated with Eye-One-Match. In particular the Samsung results looks spot on given the other colours in the pack.

09-10-2009, 04:01 PM	#14
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 7,451	Reddddddddddddddd