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12-14-2009, 07:04 PM   #1
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Pentax K-X or K10D

I recently sold my K100D and is looking to replace with a new camera or used one. I seen where Best Buy is selling a refurbished K10D. Trying to choose from a Refurb 10D or the new K-X. I use my camera outside alot (sports & wildlife). Any suggestions on which one. Also looking for a 70-200mm 2.8 lens for the new camera, which one is nice for around $1000.00.

12-14-2009, 07:23 PM   #2
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I think the Kx is the favorite, although if you are shooting with a 70-200 f2.8, you might find that the camera doesn't balance terribly well (kx is pretty small). As far as the 70-200, I don't own one, but the Tamron seems to be a little sharper, albeit with noisier auto focus.
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I personally dont mind the kx with a larger lens such as the 50-135 (I assume a 70-200 is even larger). I find the lens/body rest with most of the weight in my left hand, freeing up my right hand for camera adjustments - it actually works quite well on the K-x (I have big hands, and am equally at home with the k20/grip as well, for reference!).

By the sounds of it, although the K10d will give you easier access to user settings on the fly, the K-x has a newer, faster AF system, and significantly faster FPS (4.7 vs 3 for the K10), both of which might suit your stated uses alot more.
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Thanks for the quick reply's, best buy is offering the refurb K10D for $369.00. Thought I might use the money saving on getting the 70-200mm 2.8. But sounds like everyone is enjoying the K-X. Decisions are always hard to make...

12-14-2009, 08:36 PM   #5
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It's all relative to what you would like. The K10D/K20D and K-7 have a build quality superior to the K-X, K200D, K2000. Don't get me wrong, the entry level bodies have a build quality on par or better than all the other entry level cameras from the different manufacturers and even some mid level bodies.

The feature set is considerably different - it is probably worth looking at the camera review pages here on the forums.

How do you plan on using this 70-200 lens? That could make a difference as to which body to choose. Generally my rule of thumb is to buy the body that is 12-18 months old and spend money on lenses (I made an exception to this rule for the K-7). ISO 100-400 would probably have to go to the K10D, whereas anything higher would benefit from the CMOS sensor in the K-X. The megapixel difference is basically a non-factor. I do not even notice much difference between the 14mp K-7 and 10mp K2000.

I suggest doing a little more research on both cameras - maybe even consider the K200D if you can find one. Compare the feature set (and pros and cons) of each to how you intend to use the camera NOW. Techonology and needs change so fast that you shouldn't worry about the future. Get what makes sense for you NOW.
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QuoteOriginally posted by joeyc Quote
It's all relative to what you would like. The K10D/K20D and K-7 have a build quality superior to the K-X, K200D, K2000.
Just to clarify, as far as build goes, there are really four different levels here. K-7 on top because of the magnesium body, K10D/K20D next as they share pretty much the exact same body. K200D is at most just half a step behind - you may have forgotten that it too is weather sealed, and while it doesn't offer the full set of controls the K10D/K20D, there really is little appreciably difference in the quality of the build. The K2000 and K-x are definitely a step below that in not offering weather seals, which in addition to actually providing weather sealing, also just gives a sense of better build to the cameras that have them. But as you say, even the K-x and K2000 are at least as good (most would say better) in overall build as the competition.
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Frankly, I think people fret WAY too much over nitty picky IQ concerns. Honestly, how many of you display images regularly at 1:1? i.e. 11*14 prints? Even then, peopel stand back when the print is that large.

Moving froma K100D to a 10D was pure liberation, whilst the Kx is a faster camera then the K100D, I just LOATHE being held back by the camera and with two dials you set the rear dial to control aperture and the front dial ISo and off you go.

Really, it's a no brainer IMHO.
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It is a no brainer for the K-x.
If you came from K100D, you will be disappointed with the K10D high ISO performance.
With that poor ISO performance, you would always want to buy fast lenses!
You will spend more on the fast lenses then just getting a K-x with excellent high ISO performnace and spending less and enjoying just about any lens you place on it.
Why would you want a K10D which is dated and just has an extra dial and weathersealing..not unless you would always shoot in bad weather inclement?
Even the K-x blows out the other expensive camera brands!
Can't you even imagine it being compared to the pro cameras???
That is something to think about!

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Frankly i'd get the 20D for lens AF adjustment feature, what are they $600? Absolute SCREAMING bargain in the marketplace for a great piece of kit that blows the Kx into the woods as a photographers camera.

Hell, you can even choose your freakin AF point! Fancy that.
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I'd also consider the K20D + grip in your position but wouldn't neglect the K-x either.
The K-x without a grip would be difficult to balance with such a hefty lens but would perform just as well if not better. But Alfisti's got a point, both in economic and practical terms.
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Why did you sell the K100D? That ought to tell you what you need in the next camera.
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I agree with the others tat it would be more of a toss-up between the K20D and the K-x.
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Given the myriad or AF calibration issues users on all mounts (though particularly Canon and Pentax for some weird reason) have had, honestly the absolute essential feature for anyone using AF is the calibration for 20 specified lenses. It takes all the stress out of using AF on still subjects, I could not imagine buying another body, any body, without that feature.
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Being you plan to be using this outdoors a lot, I think the K10D, especially at that price, will do very well. The weather sealing is a big plus and it is a very study camera and can hold up well in the outdoors.

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