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01-05-2010, 09:37 PM   #1
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K7 as first dslr

Good evening. As noted in my introduction I have limited experience with slr's and none with DSLR's, though I have friends who have Nikon and Canon dlsrs with varying experience. Everyone wants to say their Brand is the Best. I am leaning toward the Pentax, especially after reading on this site, Specifically the K7.
1. I travel for work in to dusty, cold, and sometimes damp areas in North America (Deserts, mines throughout the west, and sometimes to Canada, Alaska)
I also am an avid hunter/hiker/cylist, not the cleanest conditions.
Thus I have convinced myself that I need more than a plastic bag over the camera.
2. Although most of my shooting would be landscape/scenery I do want to do some fast shoot of moving wildlife, cyling, etc. From researching it seems the k7 is the better option among Pentax cameras for sports shooting.
3. For Travel I like the small, sturdy feel of the K7 vs other brands and other Pentax cameras.
I do have a couple quick questions. The K7 has the lowest temp rating of other pentax's. Can anyone here tell much difference in reality?
Is purchasing a warranty recommended for a new camera. Seems like a no-brainer yes, but asking anyway.
The k-x would be my first option except for the sealing, especially the price, but don't mind paying for reliability of a seal K7
Thanks.

01-05-2010, 10:36 PM   #2
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Yeah, it's a nice option, as the K7's probably the lightest, least expensive option with weather sealing and decent IQ.

I'll let you know straight off that I don't own the K7...yet.

But note that weather sealing is only fully effective with the right lens - not all lenses come with the silicone O-ring around the moung that seals the camera fully. Still, since the mounts have to light-tight (of course,) they do a pretty good job of sealing the camera.

Having said that, most cameras are fairly sturdy as is. It's not like a few drops of rain or a bit of dust is going to destroy any of the modern DSLRs out there, with or without weather-sealing. Weather-sealing does help in more dire circumstances, though - say, you're walking under a tree branch after a storm and the wind shakes all the water off the leaves onto you and your camera, or if you drop it in a mud puddle and pick it up quickly.

I wouldn't let it get submerged when crossing a swamp or anything else that's similarly stupid. Same goes for dust - the REAL big baddie of digital SLRs, as dust is much harder to control than moisture - I wouldn't change lenses in a coal mine or cotton mill. Once the lens is off, all weather-sealing bets are off. Trust me on this. Sensor-cleaning is definitely one of those ounce-of-prevention situations.

The main problem with shooting in the cold is the battery. Batteries are chemical reactions, and the lower the temp, the slower the reaction, and thus the less current is produced. The classic solution to this problem is to have two sets of batteries, and keep one in your clothes where it stays warm. When the first battery stops working, trade its place with the one in your clothes, which is warm, and let the first one heat back up.

I've yet to read of any significant problems with the K7 in cold conditions. Of course, in a blizzard, with the temp far below the K7's rating, it might stop working. Then again, I'd imagine there's not much to shoot in a blizzard.

My favourite form of basic, easy-to-use protection, is a jacket. When it looks like bad weather's coming, or you're already shooting in bad weather, stick it under your jacket, and zip it up. If the jacket keeps you warm and dry, it's gonna do the same for your camera. Helps that the K7 is small, too. Camera is easy to access.

For exceedingly wet conditions - a full-on thunderstorm, say - there are things like Ewa Marine "housings" (read: fitted waterproof bags.) Good submergence protection.

Another thing the K7's size has got going for it is that for transport in rough conditions you won't have to pay as much for a decent waterproof, dustproof hardcase like a Hardigg Storm or Pelican or HPRC case. You're a hunter and work in mines, you've surely seen equipment transported in things like these. They're great if you're hanging them on your bike.

So, sorry, nothing really specific here, but just a bit of advice I've gleaned together. Good luck, and good hunting.
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Welcome to the forum mate.
K-7's a fine choice - just don't think 'weather sealing' to mean waterproof or similar assumption.
It's small but sturdy and will go the distance. You'll grow into it rather than out of it.
Enjoy shopping.
01-06-2010, 01:45 AM   #4
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Like you, I was consider a bunch of cameras for my first dSLR: these included the Canon 500D, the Nikon D90, the K-x and the K-7.

I choosed the K-7 for a number of reasons, including
- the K-7 is superior for its weather-resistant ability,
- the continous shooting (over 5fps) and the large buffer,
- the camera is relatively small and light and
- the viewfinder.

The weather-resistance is a 'must' if you do a lot of outdoor photo incl. bushwalking. This is my case. (My previous cameras were often wet and dirty (mud, sand), and had rough times. I do not want to take the same risks with a dSLR.)

I learned, with my previous camera (FZ20), to do some continous shooting when I shot some actions incl. wildlife, waves, sports. The K-7 is a winner and its buffer size is good. (Note that the Hi continous shooting requires a good SD card: I have use a class 10 [30 Mb/s] card.) The K-7 is a relatively small and light camera. Again this is an advantage when you do some outdoord and need to carry your camera for some times. (I considered very seriously the D90, but I did not take it because the camera is too big and too heavy.) The viewfinder of the K-7 is superb, one the best in its class and far superior to the K-x and 500D viewfinders.

You may wish to consider also what lens(es) you will use. Everyone is different and has a different use. A weather-resistant lens is good choice if you require it. For myself, I have a 18-250mm to cover a wide range with a single lens: very handy when I am outdoor because I do not need to carry other lenses nor to change lenses (at the wrong time too often). The 18-250mm covers 80% of my needs. I have only one other lens: a Nokton 58mm f1.4 for the low-light situations. The K-7 and Nokton are doing an excellent job even at ISO3200! (I cannot agree with those who rubbish the high ISO performances of the K-7.)

I have a K-7 because I work often outdoor and need the weather-resistance. No other camera within the same price range offers this. I love the continuous shooting specs and the small camera size and weight. The viewfinder was the 'icing on the cake'...

Lastly, with each camera, it is good advice to test it in your hands before purchasing it. The personal feeling si very important.

I hope that the comments will be of assistance.

PS: Last thing, the Pentaxforums.com is a great place for Pentax users. Enjoy ...


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1. I travel for work in to dusty, cold, and sometimes damp areas in North America (Deserts, mines throughout the west, and sometimes to Canada, Alaska)
I also am an avid hunter/hiker/cylist, not the cleanest conditions.
Thus I have convinced myself that I need more than a plastic bag over the camera.

You are right...you need a trash bag. In my experience, way more reliable and weather resistant then plastic bags. Might want to get the WR lenses.

2. Although most of my shooting would be landscape/scenery I do want to do some fast shoot of moving wildlife, cyling, etc. From researching it seems the k7 is the better option among Pentax cameras for sports shooting.

It depends on the user, there are some who say 10fps is too slow for birds while there are some who argue that the K20D`s burst mode of 21fps is a redundant feature.


3. For Travel I like the small, sturdy feel of the K7 vs other brands and other Pentax cameras.

Again it depends on the user...for me, i`d rather carry 2x K10D/K20D for the price of 1 K7 if my work takes me through dangerous areas.
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