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03-04-2010, 05:28 PM   #16
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Actually, writing to two cards simultaneously is one of the features that I would really like to have in my next camera. I've stopped thinking about it because it just didn't look like Pentax was thinking about such a thing. Happy to hear I might be wrong. Hope it's not just for the 645D.

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I tried the brick and mortar store a couple weeks ago. One of the very few in the Burlington, VT area is a Ritz, so I went there since I also needed to have a picture printed.

All they had were Nikons, Sonys and Olympi (is that the plural of Olympus?). Of course, not a single Canon or Pentax in sight, as would be expected.

The highest-end Nikon they had in stock was a D90, which is far, far down the list of Nikon SLR cameras. I mentioned that I was interested in trying out a D300S, and the sales person got all excited when she mentioned that Nikon had deigned to send them one once, 2 months ago. "Only the important stores get those for inventory! But we got ours as a convenient mistake..." she said. Unfortunately, it sold within a week, so they didn't have any in stock. Oh, but they could order one for me if I wanted, as long as I made a deposit... bleh.

What about the Sony line? There was an a500 in stock, that was the best they could muster. Unfortunately, they had no lenses for it besides the kit lens.

On the Olympus front, they had an e-600... but again with only kit lenses.

I got to play with a D90 and a 70-300mm lens for a while. The sales chick was ignoring me the whole time, serving countless other customers instead of paying attention to me. She clearly had no intention of trying to sell the camera to me. I don't think she cared at all.

Meanwhile, their 1-hour photo service took 4 hours to print my single 4x6 because the printer kept jamming. $0.28 is a rip-off for their crappy output anyways. I'll never go there to get a photo printed again, I get better and faster results from WalMart.

I agree with the general sentiment of this thread, brick and mortar camera stores are more likely to fade away before Pentax does. The last good camera store I went to, the salesman spent over an hour with me while I tried many cameras and lenses, and I ended up walking out with a *ist DL as a birthday gift for my brother-in-law. That was a few years ago, when the *ist DL was still brand new. That camera store went out of business a few months ago.
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These questions have been around for a long time, but over here Pentax have recently started taking out full page ads in national newspapers for the Kx....hardly the sign of a company going away in the short term.

One large retailer over here will not stock Pentax because of buying price issues, so naturally when one asks them about Pentax you get a very negative answer along the lines of the original question in this post.

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Camera Stores - it CAN be done

QuoteOriginally posted by Keith M Quote
Purchasing a DSLR has not been high on my to-do list only because I still like film. But after recently using my son-in-lawís Canon DSLR, Iím now feeling the urge to purchase a new Pentax. I went to the local camera store to test drive one. While waiting to speak with a sales person, I searched the displays for anything Pentax, but found nothing. When I spoke with a sales person I learned that they were still an authorized Pentax dealer but they no longer carry any in-stock items. His personal opinion was Pentax is fading away. Of course he could order one for me, but if Iím going order a camera sight unseen Iíll order from B&H.

My question of the forum is this: Are there any rumors of Pentaxís demise?
Too bad you don't live in St. Louis - Creve Couer Camera

Note which camera is featured on the FRONT PAGE!!

8 B&M Stores - all have KX and K7 in stock, and basic DA lenses. Ordering is two week turn (if Pentax has the item in the USA).

5 Pentax dSLR bodies
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7 Nikon dSLR bodies

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Here in QLD Australia, Pentax can be found in Stores.
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JP, just an FYI, the author of that post you linked to is a regular here. I wouldn't be surprised to find he posted the exact same thing here.
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I had been looking everywhere for camera stores in any of the three cities near me while I was researching my camera purchase. All I found were the "big box stores". Canikon, Sony, & Olympus were the the only brands in stock. I never got to ask about Pentax because there was never anyone around to help.

I finally found one "mom & pop" (literally) store, but unfortunately they no longer carried cameras. They still do photography, printing, etc. I told them I was looking for a Pentax and they got a pleasantly shocked expression on their faces. The old man replied, "You can't get anything better than a Pentax, but the big stores will not carry Pentax because they will not carry anything that does not turn a profit for them. They only care about quantity, not quality."

After reading the previous posts, I see that this man was quite correct in his assessment. I hate to see stores like theirs fading, especially since I like to actually check a product out in person. But that's just life!
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Things here seem to be a bit better at this moment from an availability point of view. The local Pentax agent/distributor also owns two chains of shops. Pentax is quite prominent in the shop windows. Kx in all colors in the one chain that is mostly an one-hour lab. Kx in all colors, K20D, K7, some DA* lenses and 540 flash in the other chain.

I can not judge how well Pentax is doing over here.

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I really think that in the US anyway, most cameras are sold in big box stores like Best Buy. The salesmen are anything but knowledgeable and spout drivel that sound like sale pamphlets. As someone mentioned above, there is no high end equipment available to check on for any brand. High end Canon/Nikon lenses aren't any more available than Pentax, just low to medium end cameras (read D90 and below and T2i and below for Canon). Often there are a lot of older stock cameras like the Nikon D40.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
I really think that in the US anyway, most cameras are sold in big box stores like Best Buy. The salesmen are anything but knowledgeable and spout drivel that sound like sale pamphlets. As someone mentioned above, there is no high end equipment available to check on for any brand. High end Canon/Nikon lenses aren't any more available than Pentax, just low to medium end cameras (read D90 and below and T2i and below for Canon). Often there are a lot of older stock cameras like the Nikon D40.
The dept. stores and electronics stores around here all have a large selection of older Nikons, and Canons, D40's and older Rebels. These models have been replaced for quite a while now, yet they still sit on store shelves. If Joe Consumer walked in today looking to buy a DSLR without much knowledge of the current models, he would go home with obsolete 3 yr. old technology. I miss the camera stores a lot but the buying public for the most part hasn't supported them. The huge sums of money that that Nikon and Canon got burned for in the Ritz bankruptcy also seem to indicate that the big guys are giving (or were) some pretty long payment options or maybe even stocking on consignment plans. Pentax didn't get burned as they probably expect to get paid for their cameras and this is why I suspect that some camera stores are getting the idea that Pentax is going out.
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Dang, I ain't been in a brick-mortar cam.shop in so long... I tried for one in Folsom (suburb of Sacratomato) a few days ago, actually a photo + home appliances store, but its shrunken space was vacant. Now that I have new tires, I can drive over the snowy Sierra Nevadas to Carson City and Reno, to see if the camera shops there are still in business -- the largest in Reno had a K100D on display last year, and a few lenses. And in a few weeks I'll be back in San Narcisco, where tourist-robbing shops in Chinatown and Fisherman's Wharf always have 3-year-old technology and a few Pentax-mount lenses at horrible prices. I didn't have time to check on cam.shops (let alone Pentax purveyors) in Tucson a couple weeks ago. Finding any dealers out West involves long and arduous searches.

But that's not what prompts me here. I'm bored with rumours. Other camera makers exist. AFAIK Fujica and Sigma still make forensic and other dSLRs, and Panasonic had dSLR entries. Are these brands rumoured to death? Are rumours spread by Saturn-driving Minolta specialists in Ritz shops to be believed? How about rumours spread by pimply fanboys who barely know of the existence of brands besides Canon and Nikon? And will the Humvee brand outlast Pentax?
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And will the Humvee brand outlast Pentax?
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QuoteOriginally posted by reeftool Quote
The huge sums of money that that Nikon and Canon got burned for in the Ritz bankruptcy also seem to indicate that the big guys are giving (or were) some pretty long payment options or maybe even stocking on consignment plans. Pentax didn't get burned as they probably expect to get paid for their cameras and this is why I suspect that some camera stores are getting the idea that Pentax is going out.
You are exactly right. $26.6M owed to Nikon and $13.7M owed to Canon. Pentax refused to give them merchandise on credit so they trained all of their employees to talk smack anytime someone mentions the word Pentax in their stores.

Here is a link to a news article about Ritz's bankruptcy and where I got the numbers from : Ritz Camera files for bankruptcy - Triangle Business Journal:


As far as good locally owned camera stores that carry Pentax... I guess we are kinda spoiled in the Seattle area because we have a couple options; Kenmore Camera (Kenmore Camera) and Glazer's Camera Supply (glazerscamera.com). Both of them carry new and used Pentax gear. We also have a couple other small stores that just carry used stuff. I try to give them my business as long as they can get close on the price. It is nice to have the local customer service and support. 9.9% sales tax stings pretty bad though.

I won't lose any sleep when Ritz, Wolf, Kit's, etc all close down. I feel bad for all the people I see shopping at those stores getting suckered into buying a "top of the line" Nikon D3000.
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There are basically NO camera stores in the Atlanta, GA area carrying Pentax. When I asked the largest Wolf Camera store around (Piedmont Rd) if they carry Pentax a while back, I got a very gruff and sort of condescending "we don't carry Pentax". I'll never purchase anything from these stores.
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But it sounded like Pentax might just be trying to ride a little ahead of this wave that is online business. I mentioned in another thread that Pentax enjoys a relative "luxury" of manufacturing to primarily photographers (particularly in it's SLR lines). While most of the others, as I put it, are trying to keep themselves visible to the 'gadget as status symbol' crowd and teenagers tweeting with Ashton Kutcher. A typical Pentax photographer is less likely to need the sales person. He knows what he wants because he's done the homework, and also knows where to get it.
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Spot-on analysis. Pentax is the perfect camera for the internet age. Canon and Nikon are all over the map, and one of their biggest problems is competing with themselves: Their consumer models can't be too good or they'll steal sales from their pro-grade stuff. Pentax can have two cameras, one cheap, one expensive, and can focus on features rather than marketing.

If the people at Pentax understood your analysis, they'd sell a lot more cameras. Go viral.
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