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03-12-2010, 05:24 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by frascati Quote
Interesting to see this thread. I was in Holland Michigan last week and decided to stop in a large camera shop to get my hands on a K-X to see what it looked like up close. The owner was behind the counter. He was the only one in the store in fact. And I was probably the only one he'd seen in the last hour. Let's not digress on some flameout concerning the loss of "bricks and mortar". There are obviously too many pros and cons to that situation to make any mention of the trend worth while in one thread. But it was pretty interesting that he had most of the other major brands present except Pentax.

When I asked of this, he got a little pissy. While admitting that it was always a fine product, he claimed that Pentax just never supported it's retailers in the last decade. Whatever support that constitutes, advertising, cardboard signs, fast warranty service.... I don't know. But it sounded like Pentax might just be trying to ride a little ahead of this wave that is online business. I mentioned in another thread that Pentax enjoys a relative "luxury" of manufacturing to primarily photographers (particularly in it's SLR lines). While most of the others, as I put it, are trying to keep themselves visible to the 'gadget as status symbol' crowd and teenagers tweeting with Ashton Kutcher. A typical Pentax photographer is less likely to need the sales person. He knows what he wants because he's done the homework, and also knows where to get it.

It's mostly a good thing for the Pentax consumer, I think. Demise does not look likely. But who ever knows? Ask a Saab owner.
Love what you said here. It's so true too. I was in "Best" Buy the other night and I couldn't believe my eyes. They have a couple of Canikons stashed away in a glass case and that's it for dslrs. The only one that looked like it was worth what they were asking was a larger Nikon. The canons, as someone else put it, looked cheap and plasticky. I also couldn't believe how small the T1i was...Yup, I'm glad I chose my K20D! Who's the real "Rebel" here? lol

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Oooh, ooh, I know the answer to that one!! Call on me!
Just wanted to say I like your corgi! ;-)
03-12-2010, 06:14 AM   #33
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I find it hilarious that every Ritz, Wolf, Kits, etc. that I have been to, mentioning the word Pentax is like a dirty word. All you will get in reply is some eye rolling and the generic (almost rehearsed sounding), "Pentax is going out of business". I have heard every salespersons' stories for years and yet Pentax seems to be doing fine under their new owners (Hoya), who bought them out in 2007 for $864M. I don't see them going anywhere, anytime soon.
Oddly, two of the people who work at my local Ritz are Pentax film SLR owners, and they say they love their old Pentax cameras.
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Just wanted to say I like your corgi! ;-)
I was once owned by a Welsh Corgi also.

He eventually decided he wanted to own another family, negotiated a settlement with us and moved in with them and their three other Corgis.

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Oddly, two of the people who work at my local Ritz are Pentax film SLR owners, and they say they love their old Pentax cameras.
I had the same experience here in Dallas. There's a Wolf Camera that I used to go to for prints and of course, if they weren't busy, I'd take a look at the cameras. I got to know one of the sales reps a little bit. They had Pentax stuff occasionally—I bought the Pentax 50-200 from them—but the rep regretted that they didn't get more. This was about a year and a half ago. They got one (1!) K20D in stock. The sales rep bought it.

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I was once owned by a Welsh Corgi also.

He eventually decided he wanted to own another family, negotiated a settlement with us and moved in with them and their three other Corgis.
Don't mean to hijack this thread, sorry! But I understand exactly what you are talking about...there is no such thing as a 'corgi owner'. It's always the other way around.

And now back to our regularly scheduled programming....
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I appreciate all the responses to my original post. It appears that most of you agree with my opinion of the salesman’s response. I hadn’t noticed the older models on the shelves of the big box stores. I worked in a “brick & mortar” store about 35 years ago. The store was 60 - 80 (?) years old when I worked there; sold Leica, Hasselblad, Nikon, Pentax, and some others. There were 2 competitors on the same street in downtown; both of the owners had originally started at the same store where I then worked. Only 1 of the 3 is still in business, and that competitor did what I recommended to my boss by opening multiple stores in shopping centers in the late ‘70s. We once had a few Ritzes, and another chain store whose name escapes me (wasn’t Wolf) but they didn’t last long. We are a large city not as big as Dallas, but over a million. I was sold on my first still working Spotmatic, which I purchased in high school in ’66 from the same store that told me of the demise. I carried Nikon 35mm and Canon 16mm for the Marine Corps, and loved the Pentax more. I was once submerged in saltwater up to my chest while in an amphibious landing craft, and had to have all of my Nikon gear replaced or extensively repaired. My own Spotmatic and lenses were fine after a general cleaning. Even the Navy camera repair specialist was surprised at the difference in how the Pentax held up. All of that equipment, save the 135mm is still my originals (I dropped the 135 off a bridge while I was interning for the AP in Manhattan. I haven’t worked professionally in photography in over 30 years, because my family deserved a much steadier income. But I still go through dozens of rolls of film a month. I do have a little Canon digital, which was a gift, which works great at work; I would have bought a Pentax. I’m an engineering consultant, but I need something better for my passion. I don’t like my son-in-law’s Canon, or his brother’s Nikons. And I'm not one for the flashy ads, but I wonder why Pentax doesn't advertise.

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When I was still deciding what type of camera to get, I went to a local big-name camera store to check out various bodies and kit options (was already leaning towards Pentax, but wanted to get a hands-on comparison).

The place had one K-X kit and one K-7 kit and nothing else Pentax.

When I mentioned to the salesperson that I was having a hard time finding Pentax products, and if Pentax was a brand they normally stocked, he said that it was not, aside from the occasional kit. He said that Pentax just doesn't hold enough of the market to make it worthwhile for them to carry more than they do - everyone that comes in to his shop just instantly go for the Canons or Nikon. He had nothing but good things to say about the Pentax, but from a brick-and-mortar retail standpoint where turn-around on your product is key, Pentax is better left to the online resellers that can just warehouse it with little to no overhead...

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