I wanna take it back (Black and White)

NecroticSoldier · 04-12-2010, 02:23 PM

Is it better to set the images black and white on camera? or do it PP?

JeffJS · 04-12-2010, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by NecroticSoldier

Is it better to set the images black and white on camera? or do it PP?

PP. You have far more control over it there than in the camera. Best further to do it with the RAW files.

Of course, and I'm going to get flamed for this, nothing beats film when it comes to Black and White.

NecroticSoldier · 04-12-2010, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by JeffJS

PP. You have far more control over it there than in the camera. Best further to do it with the RAW files.

Of course, and I'm going to get flamed for this, nothing beats film when it comes to Black and White.

Haha, yeah, but film is also more expensive! Thanks, this was sorta a checking to see if my guess was correct... Now...to figure out how to get it to look like actual black and white photos without film.

jct us101 · 04-12-2010, 02:36 PM

What do you want to take back (I don't understand your title)?

Post Processing is the best way to do black and white because you have much more control over it than when you do it with the camera which doesn't have as good of a processing unit in it.

NecroticSoldier · 04-12-2010, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

What do you want to take back (I don't understand your title)?

Post Processing is the best way to do black and white because you have much more control over it than when you do it with the camera which doesn't have as good of a processing unit in it.

LOLLL just trying trying to think of an original title... haha, I mean take it back to the good old days of black and white ;D. Oh, yeah. Would like... PP have like some sorta of add-on for specific black and whites?

JeffJS · 04-12-2010, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by NecroticSoldier

Haha, yeah, but film is also more expensive! Thanks, this was sorta a checking to see if my guess was correct... Now...to figure out how to get it to look like actual black and white photos without film.

Have you learned the Gimp yet? Doing B&W in digital is a matter of desaturating (not changing to gray scale) and then manipulating your highlights and shadows to get your preferred outcome. Doesn't look like a photo but some pretty cool illustration type stuff can be done too.

A B&W conversion..

jct us101 · 04-12-2010, 02:47 PM

What were you thinking with that frame?

Wow. Just wow.

The title is original enough, would just help us if we knew what you were talking about. :-P

NecroticSoldier · 04-12-2010, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

What were you thinking with that frame?

Wow. Just wow.

The title is original enough, would just help us if we knew what you were talking about. :-P

Uhh... what frame...?

jct us101 · 04-12-2010, 02:54 PM

The one in Jeff's post. I was just making fun though.

NecroticSoldier · 04-12-2010, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

The one in Jeff's post. I was just making fun though.

OH! Now I get it, HAHA!

JeffJS · 04-12-2010, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by NecroticSoldier

Uhh... what frame...?

I think he's talking about the frame around my second photo.. Looks a lot better in the full sized version. His opinion would matter to me if he weren't just posting to try and win a contest with his 100+ one liner me too posts per day.

**rparmar** · 04-12-2010, 03:18 PM

Definitely shoot in colour unless you want quick feedback about the tonal range on the real LCD. Depending on your shooting pace (from the hip or contemplative) you can perhaps frame and comp in B&W, then switch to colour to take the shot. On the computer you will then have far more latitude in how you convert to mono. I use many different methods myself.

Tuner571 · 04-12-2010, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by JeffJS

A B&W conversion..

This is really cool shot, I would get this one printed big and hang it on my wall!

Tuner571 · 04-12-2010, 03:23 PM

Also, I would use PP to do the black and white conversion. You have alot more control over shadows and highlights in the image. For me I shoot in RAW so I have to use PP to convert my images.

NecroticSoldier · 04-12-2010, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by JeffJS

I think he's talking about the frame around my second photo.. Looks a lot better in the full sized version. His opinion would matter to me if he weren't just posting to try and win a contest with his 100+ one liner me too posts per day.

I know I'll never win this contest... I tried... but no ideas came up this week... I had not even one question what so ever. Didn't want to bust my brain. I really want the 17-70 though ;P. Would be nice, but not needed.

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04-12-2010, 02:27 PM	#2
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	Originally posted by NecroticSoldier Is it better to set the images black and white on camera? or do it PP? PP. You have far more control over it there than in the camera. Best further to do it with the RAW files. Of course, and I'm going to get flamed for this, nothing beats film when it comes to Black and White.

04-12-2010, 02:36 PM	#3
NecroticSoldier Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Scarborough, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 488 Original Poster	Originally posted by JeffJS PP. You have far more control over it there than in the camera. Best further to do it with the RAW files. Of course, and I'm going to get flamed for this, nothing beats film when it comes to Black and White. Haha, yeah, but film is also more expensive! Thanks, this was sorta a checking to see if my guess was correct... Now...to figure out how to get it to look like actual black and white photos without film.

04-12-2010, 02:36 PM	#4
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	What do you want to take back (I don't understand your title)? Post Processing is the best way to do black and white because you have much more control over it than when you do it with the camera which doesn't have as good of a processing unit in it.

04-12-2010, 02:43 PM	#5
NecroticSoldier Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Scarborough, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 488 Original Poster	Originally posted by jct us101 What do you want to take back (I don't understand your title)? Post Processing is the best way to do black and white because you have much more control over it than when you do it with the camera which doesn't have as good of a processing unit in it. LOLLL just trying trying to think of an original title... haha, I mean take it back to the good old days of black and white ;D. Oh, yeah. Would like... PP have like some sorta of add-on for specific black and whites?

04-12-2010, 02:43 PM	#6
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	Originally posted by NecroticSoldier Haha, yeah, but film is also more expensive! Thanks, this was sorta a checking to see if my guess was correct... Now...to figure out how to get it to look like actual black and white photos without film. Have you learned the Gimp yet? Doing B&W in digital is a matter of desaturating (not changing to gray scale) and then manipulating your highlights and shadows to get your preferred outcome. Doesn't look like a photo but some pretty cool illustration type stuff can be done too. A B&W conversion..

04-12-2010, 02:47 PM	#7
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	What were you thinking with that frame? Wow. Just wow. The title is original enough, would just help us if we knew what you were talking about. :-P

04-12-2010, 02:51 PM	#8
NecroticSoldier Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Scarborough, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 488 Original Poster	Originally posted by jct us101 What were you thinking with that frame? Wow. Just wow. The title is original enough, would just help us if we knew what you were talking about. :-P Uhh... what frame...?

04-12-2010, 02:54 PM	#9
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	The one in Jeff's post. I was just making fun though.

04-12-2010, 02:56 PM	#10
NecroticSoldier Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Scarborough, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 488 Original Poster	Originally posted by jct us101 The one in Jeff's post. I was just making fun though. OH! Now I get it, HAHA!

04-12-2010, 02:56 PM	#11
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	Originally posted by NecroticSoldier Uhh... what frame...? I think he's talking about the frame around my second photo.. Looks a lot better in the full sized version. His opinion would matter to me if he weren't just posting to try and win a contest with his 100+ one liner me too posts per day.

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04-12-2010, 03:18 PM	#12
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	Definitely shoot in colour unless you want quick feedback about the tonal range on the real LCD. Depending on your shooting pace (from the hip or contemplative) you can perhaps frame and comp in B&W, then switch to colour to take the shot. On the computer you will then have far more latitude in how you convert to mono. I use many different methods myself.

04-12-2010, 03:22 PM	#13
Tuner571 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,549	Originally posted by JeffJS A B&W conversion.. This is really cool shot, I would get this one printed big and hang it on my wall!

04-12-2010, 03:23 PM	#14
Tuner571 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,549	Also, I would use PP to do the black and white conversion. You have alot more control over shadows and highlights in the image. For me I shoot in RAW so I have to use PP to convert my images.

04-12-2010, 03:27 PM	#15
NecroticSoldier Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Scarborough, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 488 Original Poster	Originally posted by JeffJS I think he's talking about the frame around my second photo.. Looks a lot better in the full sized version. His opinion would matter to me if he weren't just posting to try and win a contest with his 100+ one liner me too posts per day. I know I'll never win this contest... I tried... but no ideas came up this week... I had not even one question what so ever. Didn't want to bust my brain. I really want the 17-70 though ;P. Would be nice, but not needed.