I love the auto ISO on my K-x

jct us101 · 05-12-2010, 02:07 PM

I have it set to 100-6400 on AV mode and it really works wonders for me, haven't taken a single bad photo yet or one with too much noise. I love this camera!

**kiwi_jono** · 05-12-2010, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

I have it set to 100-6400 on AV mode and it really works wonders for me, haven't taken a single bad photo yet or one with too much noise. I love this camera!

You are obviously a much better photographer than me! Actually, seriously that probably is true. I'm happy if I get a few good photos from an outing.

That said, I also use auto ISO although 100 - 800 (or sometimes 100 - 400). Probably because I pixel peep way too much and find the noise in darker areas of the image too annoying from 800.

Ken T · 05-12-2010, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by jct us101

I have it set to 100-6400 on AV mode and it really works wonders for me, haven't taken a single bad photo yet or one with too much noise. I love this camera!

Curiously, which Capture mode do you use, and any EV compensation needed ?

Ira · 05-12-2010, 02:49 PM

Auto ISO should be banned.

LinXitoW · 05-12-2010, 03:46 PM

In my opinion, when taking pictures just for the webs, ISO is the only way of grabbing more light without changing the way the picture looks. i also have it on -6400.

Btw, if you ever come across a "Semipro" bitching about how cool his 7D is, just say AutoISO and they'll shush, cause they dont got it(at least not in a usable form).

Why should AutoISO be banned? I think ISO shouldnt be the photographers concern since it doesnt have a huge effect on your picture like a closed or opened aperture or fast or slow shutter speeds.

goddo31 · 05-12-2010, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by LinXitoW

In my opinion, when taking pictures just for the webs, ISO is the only way of grabbing more light without changing the way the picture looks. i also have it on -6400.

Btw, if you ever come across a "Semipro" bitching about how cool his 7D is, just say AutoISO and they'll shush, cause they dont got it(at least not in a usable form).

Why should AutoISO be banned? I think ISO shouldnt be the photographers concern since it doesnt have a huge effect on your picture like a closed or opened aperture or fast or slow shutter speeds.

I disagree that ISO doesn't change the way the picture looks, it really can make a large difference. Think about noise and differences in colour and DR.
Or - try using film at different ISO ratings and look at the difference!

I could argue that changing the ISO by one stop would have more of a subjective effect on the photo than changing the aperture by one stop, depending on the FL, distance and other factors of course. ISO is part of exposure as much as shutter speed or aperture, so how can it not be the concern of the photographer?

Maybe you guys have been too spoilt by the clean high-ISO images of the K-x!

Anyway, I have nothing against Auto-ISO, it can be really convenient in some situations. It's good to hear that jct us101 is finding it very useful.
I'm all for manual control, but I don't know why you would want to ban it, Ira.

**GingerBeer** · 05-12-2010, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Ira

Auto ISO should be banned.

I think comments like that should be banned. Why would you want to ban Auto ISO If people want to have full control it's no dilemma to turn it off but there are clearly people that do not want to worry about controlling ISO.

When I have time to set up a shot properly I use M mode but generally I let my K-x sit in P mode with Auto ISO in case I come across something that I want to be able to shoot immediately.

opiedog · 05-13-2010, 04:42 AM

at least in my experience w/ the kx, it seems to try to use as high ISO as possible when using the on-board flash

i've taken some pictures and while they turned out okay, the Kx picked ISO 3200 when the flash was used.

Ira · 05-13-2010, 12:48 PM

I just think that ISO has such a large impact on your final image that you should only go high when you have to.

An automatic mode is still an automatic mode with manual ISO, but that's a variable I really want to select for myself. I just see it as a redundant feature.

If I'm at early dusk, I know I want to be at say 400. I don't want 800. And in bright day, I'm at 100--period.

Ira · 05-13-2010, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by goddo31

I'm all for manual control, but I don't know why you would want to ban it, Ira.

Well, since I unfortunately don't have the power to do it, it was kind of a moot comment anyway!

deadwolfbones · 05-13-2010, 01:01 PM

Having used auto-ISO on the K-x and now on my D700, I can say that with the right sensor it's really a blessing. On the D700 I just set it to max range and forget about it. If it's ever using ISO 12800, it almost certainly needs it, and even then the results are usable with the right PP. Rockin'.

On the K-7, on the other hand, I shoot strictly ISO 200 unless otherwise needed. The sensor just doesn't perform well enough to use auto-ISO.

gkreth · 05-13-2010, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by Ira

Auto ISO should be banned.

I love auto ISO.
Never used it before the K-x.
Now I used nearly all the time.
I LOVE it!

Greg

Ira · 05-13-2010, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by gkreth

I love auto ISO.
Never used it before the K-x.
Now I used nearly all the time.
I LOVE it!

Greg

How does it help you?

nulla · 05-13-2010, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Ira

How does it help you?

I have the K-7 and K-x

Never used Auto ISO before the K-x and only use it on the K-x indoors and other low light situations along with AV mode.

K-x has wonderful high ISO performance as we know and it has turned my thinking on this subject around 100%

Cheers

Neil

Ira · 05-13-2010, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by nulla

I have the K-7 and K-x

Never used Auto ISO before the K-x and only use it on the K-x indoors and other low light situations along with AV mode.

K-x has wonderful high ISO performance as we know and it has turned my thinking on this subject around 100%

Neil

Flash or no flash?

05-12-2010, 02:07 PM	#1
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	I love the auto ISO on my K-x I have it set to 100-6400 on AV mode and it really works wonders for me, haven't taken a single bad photo yet or one with too much noise. I love this camera!

05-13-2010, 04:42 AM	#8
opiedog Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NC Posts: 787	Auto ISO is great but not so smart when using flash at least in my experience w/ the kx, it seems to try to use as high ISO as possible when using the on-board flash i've taken some pictures and while they turned out okay, the Kx picked ISO 3200 when the flash was used.

05-13-2010, 02:06 PM	#12
gkreth Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 68	I use Auto ISO nearly all the time Originally posted by Ira Auto ISO should be banned. I love auto ISO. Never used it before the K-x. Now I used nearly all the time. I LOVE it! Greg Last edited by gkreth; 05-13-2010 at 02:06 PM. Reason: Got the Subject title incorrect

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05-12-2010, 02:18 PM	#2
kiwi_jono Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,437	Originally posted by jct us101 I have it set to 100-6400 on AV mode and it really works wonders for me, haven't taken a single bad photo yet or one with too much noise. I love this camera! You are obviously a much better photographer than me! Actually, seriously that probably is true. I'm happy if I get a few good photos from an outing. That said, I also use auto ISO although 100 - 800 (or sometimes 100 - 400). Probably because I pixel peep way too much and find the noise in darker areas of the image too annoying from 800.

05-12-2010, 02:45 PM	#3
Ken T Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California, USA Posts: 536	Originally posted by jct us101 I have it set to 100-6400 on AV mode and it really works wonders for me, haven't taken a single bad photo yet or one with too much noise. I love this camera! Curiously, which Capture mode do you use, and any EV compensation needed ?

05-12-2010, 02:49 PM	#4
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Auto ISO should be banned.

05-12-2010, 03:46 PM	#5
LinXitoW Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 50	In my opinion, when taking pictures just for the webs, ISO is the only way of grabbing more light without changing the way the picture looks. i also have it on -6400. Btw, if you ever come across a "Semipro" bitching about how cool his 7D is, just say AutoISO and they'll shush, cause they dont got it(at least not in a usable form). Why should AutoISO be banned? I think ISO shouldnt be the photographers concern since it doesnt have a huge effect on your picture like a closed or opened aperture or fast or slow shutter speeds.

05-12-2010, 09:27 PM	#6
goddo31 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,576	Originally posted by LinXitoW In my opinion, when taking pictures just for the webs, ISO is the only way of grabbing more light without changing the way the picture looks. i also have it on -6400. Btw, if you ever come across a "Semipro" bitching about how cool his 7D is, just say AutoISO and they'll shush, cause they dont got it(at least not in a usable form). Why should AutoISO be banned? I think ISO shouldnt be the photographers concern since it doesnt have a huge effect on your picture like a closed or opened aperture or fast or slow shutter speeds. I disagree that ISO doesn't change the way the picture looks, it really can make a large difference. Think about noise and differences in colour and DR. Or - try using film at different ISO ratings and look at the difference! I could argue that changing the ISO by one stop would have more of a subjective effect on the photo than changing the aperture by one stop, depending on the FL, distance and other factors of course. ISO is part of exposure as much as shutter speed or aperture, so how can it not be the concern of the photographer? Maybe you guys have been too spoilt by the clean high-ISO images of the K-x! Anyway, I have nothing against Auto-ISO, it can be really convenient in some situations. It's good to hear that jct us101 is finding it very useful. I'm all for manual control, but I don't know why you would want to ban it, Ira.

05-12-2010, 09:34 PM	#7
GingerBeer Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brisbane Posts: 126	Originally posted by Ira Auto ISO should be banned. I think comments like that should be banned. Why would you want to ban Auto ISO If people want to have full control it's no dilemma to turn it off but there are clearly people that do not want to worry about controlling ISO. When I have time to set up a shot properly I use M mode but generally I let my K-x sit in P mode with Auto ISO in case I come across something that I want to be able to shoot immediately.

05-13-2010, 12:48 PM	#9
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	I just think that ISO has such a large impact on your final image that you should only go high when you have to. An automatic mode is still an automatic mode with manual ISO, but that's a variable I really want to select for myself. I just see it as a redundant feature. If I'm at early dusk, I know I want to be at say 400. I don't want 800. And in bright day, I'm at 100--period.

05-13-2010, 12:50 PM	#10
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by goddo31 I'm all for manual control, but I don't know why you would want to ban it, Ira. Well, since I unfortunately don't have the power to do it, it was kind of a moot comment anyway!

05-13-2010, 01:01 PM	#11
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Having used auto-ISO on the K-x and now on my D700, I can say that with the right sensor it's really a blessing. On the D700 I just set it to max range and forget about it. If it's ever using ISO 12800, it almost certainly needs it, and even then the results are usable with the right PP. Rockin'. On the K-7, on the other hand, I shoot strictly ISO 200 unless otherwise needed. The sensor just doesn't perform well enough to use auto-ISO.

05-13-2010, 03:25 PM	#13
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by gkreth I love auto ISO. Never used it before the K-x. Now I used nearly all the time. I LOVE it! Greg How does it help you?

05-13-2010, 03:31 PM	#14
nulla Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 1,560	Originally posted by Ira How does it help you? I have the K-7 and K-x Never used Auto ISO before the K-x and only use it on the K-x indoors and other low light situations along with AV mode. K-x has wonderful high ISO performance as we know and it has turned my thinking on this subject around 100% Cheers Neil

05-13-2010, 03:37 PM	#15
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by nulla I have the K-7 and K-x Never used Auto ISO before the K-x and only use it on the K-x indoors and other low light situations along with AV mode. K-x has wonderful high ISO performance as we know and it has turned my thinking on this subject around 100% Neil Flash or no flash?