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View Poll Results: Full frame or improved AF. What do you want in the "K-8"?
Full-frame sensor 8141.54%
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05-21-2010, 07:41 AM   #1
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Full frame or improved AF. What do you want in the "K-8"?

Like any organization, Pentax has to prioritize their efforts. There's been a lot of discussion in the forum about both full frame sensors and improved AF. If you had to choose where Pentax concentrate its efforts for the K-7 successor, where would it be?

For the purposes of this survey, assume the following:
1. All the other parameters - price, size, weight, FPS, etc... - are equal.
2. Peripheral issues - SDM, vignetting of DA lenses, etc... - will not change.
3. Improved AF will be as close to Nikon/Canon systems as possible with current screw drive and SDM lenses. This includes improved low light AF, AF.S, and AF.C.
4. Full-frame sensor will exhibit performance similar to K-x sensor with regards to DR, ISO, etc and will be in the 16-20 megapixel range.

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I went for full frame since the K-7s autofocus is good for what I use it for. Let me say, though, that I love a poll where I will benefit with either result
05-21-2010, 07:57 AM   #3
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Since my FF fix is being satiated by my 5D MkII, I guess I'd say improved AF. But it would have to be a "much improved AF" to balance out the allure of FF.

The problem with FF is that it's going to make my DA*16-50, DA*60-250, and DA12-24 obsolete, and I wouldn't appreciate that so much.
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I vote "Improve AF".

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QuoteOriginally posted by RawheaD Quote
Since my FF fix is being satiated by my 5D MkII, I guess I'd say improved AF. But it would have to be a "much improved AF" to balance out the allure of FF.

The problem with FF is that it's going to make my DA*16-50, DA*60-250, and DA12-24 obsolete, and I wouldn't appreciate that so much.
Your 60-250 is already FF compatible, according to the DA on FF lens thread (posted by Falconeye).
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Well, I voted FF, although I'm sure there will be also an improvement on AF as well.
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I voted for the improvement, but somewhat in general, not only for the AF. Just some minor changes (a K7.2) and I will be happy...
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I didn't vote, my choice would be "Improved DR and noise at high-ISO, but keep APS-C format".

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Full Frame

And I'm more concerned with IQ at high ISO than megapixel count
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QuoteOriginally posted by RBellavance Quote
I didn't vote, my choice would be "Improved DR and noise at high-ISO, but keep APS-C format".
My sentiments exactly!
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QuoteOriginally posted by RBellavance Quote
I didn't vote, my choice would be "Improved DR and noise at high-ISO, but keep APS-C format".
I agree, thus I chose improved AF.
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I'd like:

K-x sensor (less noise, more DR)
Minimum shutter speed setting
Better AF
1080p H.264 video
Better menus
Dual SD slots

An improved SDM system with an AF video capability. Just one "kit" lens to do this would be a killer.
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I want both

but a soon to be offered FF is imperative for my needs

I could even take the great AF on a nice APS-C if they announced that FF was to follow in a reasonable time
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Flawed Poll

What a flawed poll, only two choices? Couldn't Hoya/Pentax offer both or even more?

Besides, these anonymous polls are easy to game.

I'm not going to even vote on this. I don't see why people are so against FF. People on the Nikon boards were against FF too until Nikon brought one out. Did the world end? Did Nikon quit producing APS-C cameras or lenses? Did the old APS-C lenses and cameras quit working?

The FF shake reduction patent should give any reasonable person a glimpse at the direction Hoya/Pentax is heading.

I look forward to a FF K Mount Pentax DSLR!
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I would have voted AF if not

1. Pentax wouldn't outperform Canikon and even their AF doesn't satisfy me

2. Dramatic progress in the performance of contrast AF will render phase AF obsolete

-- even with an optical VF, I predict future AF systems to be contrast with a 33% transparent mirror. I don't know who will be first to market but from a technological point of view, it should happen very soon now. So, I don't want to see Pentax betting on a dead horse.

I have grown sick of slow operation and inaccurate focus which are both due to film era's phase detect technology with miniature sensors. You'll have to use all available light for as fast as possible focus operation. I want it now.

If this is what the "AF" choice meant to mean, then it would have gotten my vote. But somehow, I assumed it to mean the dead horse.
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