Frustration with Pentax

Transit · 06-10-2010, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by dande

Transit: sorry, I will try to format my replies in future better.

Thanks for your polite reply to my rather imperious suggestion

Pete

clark · 06-10-2010, 05:52 PM

if pentax just made an update to get full manual on the k7, and 24p, then it'd be a great cam

then on the next body they would make it do 60p 720, and 24p 1080- then canon would do something more, and pentax would follow
1 step behind

although pentax's lack of firmware update is making me think that they're just going to make a k8 which can do 24p 1080, and no 60fps
which would suck
2 steps behind

I was playing around with a 550d and a 70-200 f4 IS, very tempting...
although video on the 50 and 85mm primes really made me value IS in video shooting

so in that respect pentax wins

and in terms of manual focus feel, anything other than L series is a PITA to focus manually, so again pentax wins
Pentax glass is also sharper (for the money), and maybe has better low iso detail and high iso noise control
please please dont disappoint us pentax
everything's there except the video capabilities

filmamigo · 06-12-2010, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Ira

Do you mind if I PM you from time to time with some simple questions? I have a Kx, but I've never dismissed the video capabilities:

It's just that I didn't buy the camera for that, but would like to learn what it's capable of.

Any time Ira, I love to talk about all this stuff.

filmamigo · 06-12-2010, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by clark

if pentax just made an update to get full manual on the k7, and 24p, then it'd be a great cam

Yes, it would take VERY little to make the K7 a formiddable movie camera. Those two small changes would make it useable, as a professional filmmaking tool.

The inclusion of higher frame rates (to me) are only useful for overcranking (i.e. slowmotion shooting) which are highly desirable, but not a dealbreaker.

Lack of 24p and lack of manual controls are a deal breaker. It's why I bought a cheap K20D on closeout, instead of a K7.

I look forward to the K8 -- as I am not hopeful that Pentax will be able to deliver 24p+manual controls in a firmware upgrade to the K7.

dande · 06-13-2010, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by filmamigo

Yes, it would take VERY little to make the K7 a formiddable movie camera. Those two small changes would make it useable, as a professional filmmaking tool.

The inclusion of higher frame rates (to me) are only useful for overcranking (i.e. slowmotion shooting) which are highly desirable, but not a dealbreaker.

Lack of 24p and lack of manual controls are a deal breaker. It's why I bought a cheap K20D on closeout, instead of a K7.

I look forward to the K8 -- as I am not hopeful that Pentax will be able to deliver 24p+manual controls in a firmware upgrade to the K7.

I still hope that besides introducing a new camera, Pentax will release some video improvements for K-7. But the question is again: than what will sell the new K8 (or whatever)?

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06-10-2010, 04:31 PM	#46
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	Originally posted by dande Transit: sorry, I will try to format my replies in future better. Thanks for your polite reply to my rather imperious suggestion Pete

06-10-2010, 05:52 PM	#47
clark Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 301	if pentax just made an update to get full manual on the k7, and 24p, then it'd be a great cam then on the next body they would make it do 60p 720, and 24p 1080- then canon would do something more, and pentax would follow 1 step behind although pentax's lack of firmware update is making me think that they're just going to make a k8 which can do 24p 1080, and no 60fps which would suck 2 steps behind I was playing around with a 550d and a 70-200 f4 IS, very tempting... although video on the 50 and 85mm primes really made me value IS in video shooting so in that respect pentax wins and in terms of manual focus feel, anything other than L series is a PITA to focus manually, so again pentax wins Pentax glass is also sharper (for the money), and maybe has better low iso detail and high iso noise control please please dont disappoint us pentax everything's there except the video capabilities

06-12-2010, 11:38 AM	#48
filmamigo Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 797	Originally posted by Ira Do you mind if I PM you from time to time with some simple questions? I have a Kx, but I've never dismissed the video capabilities: It's just that I didn't buy the camera for that, but would like to learn what it's capable of. Any time Ira, I love to talk about all this stuff.

06-12-2010, 11:45 AM	#49
filmamigo Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 797	Originally posted by clark if pentax just made an update to get full manual on the k7, and 24p, then it'd be a great cam Yes, it would take VERY little to make the K7 a formiddable movie camera. Those two small changes would make it useable, as a professional filmmaking tool. The inclusion of higher frame rates (to me) are only useful for overcranking (i.e. slowmotion shooting) which are highly desirable, but not a dealbreaker. Lack of 24p and lack of manual controls are a deal breaker. It's why I bought a cheap K20D on closeout, instead of a K7. I look forward to the K8 -- as I am not hopeful that Pentax will be able to deliver 24p+manual controls in a firmware upgrade to the K7.

06-13-2010, 05:06 AM	#50
dande Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hungary Posts: 58 Original Poster	Originally posted by filmamigo Yes, it would take VERY little to make the K7 a formiddable movie camera. Those two small changes would make it useable, as a professional filmmaking tool. The inclusion of higher frame rates (to me) are only useful for overcranking (i.e. slowmotion shooting) which are highly desirable, but not a dealbreaker. Lack of 24p and lack of manual controls are a deal breaker. It's why I bought a cheap K20D on closeout, instead of a K7. I look forward to the K8 -- as I am not hopeful that Pentax will be able to deliver 24p+manual controls in a firmware upgrade to the K7. I still hope that besides introducing a new camera, Pentax will release some video improvements for K-7. But the question is again: than what will sell the new K8 (or whatever)?