With equal lens can the k-x look like the k-7?

justtakingpics · 06-22-2010, 08:36 AM

I know the k-7 has more megapixels but not much. I wanted to know, all other things like composition, lighting, etc. being equal and using the same lens, can a K-x produce and image of the same quality as the K-7?

Thanks.

enoeske · 06-22-2010, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by justtakingpics

I know the k-7 has more megapixels but not much. I wanted to know, all other things like composition, lighting, etc. being equal and using the same lens, can a K-x produce and image of the same quality as the K-7?

Thanks.

No, but the photographer behind the camera probably could.

axl · 06-22-2010, 09:11 AM

I'd say that "practically" yes. Especialy if shooting RAW and /or on higher ISO. The only thing that K-7 sensor has going for it is 2mpx more AFAIK. Now these count for the whole area of the sensor so it's only marginally bigger pic and unless not severly cropped or enlarged pic from K-x could look just as good IMO... but then, I've never tried it

KxBlaze · 06-22-2010, 09:17 AM

Yes it can, to the naked eye. If you do a 100% or larger crop or pixel peep than you can notice the K7's 2 more MP. I've done a side by side comparison and with the same settings on both cameras I got 2 idential pictures, as is, using an M 50mm 1.7.

GatorPentax · 06-22-2010, 09:19 AM

both are cropped sensors so honestly i dont see why not. What the K7 has going for it are a better build, completely weather sealed, extra dials, magnesium body, internal prism, etc. As far as picture quality, the Kx and K7 should be about equal. Its just more difficult with the Kx because it has less dials and internal focusing points...... and the Kx feels like a toy in comparison.

Urkeldaedalus · 06-22-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by justtakingpics

I know the k-7 has more megapixels but not much. I wanted to know, all other things like composition, lighting, etc. being equal and using the same lens, can a K-x produce and image of the same quality as the K-7?

Thanks.

I've noticed that I tend to like the K-7s photos better, but I've never quantified this difference and it may just be in my head -- I think it might have something to do with the K-7s great white balance. The difference is slight enough, however, that a K-x with a better lens will certainly outperform a K-7 with a lesser one. This is the case for pretty much all cameras -- the lens is still the most important when it comes to image quality.

justtakingpics · 06-22-2010, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Urkeldaedalus

I've noticed that I tend to like the K-7s photos better, but I've never quantified this difference and it may just be in my head -- I think it might have something to do with the K-7s great white balance. The difference is slight enough, however, that a K-x with a better lens will certainly outperform a K-7 with a lesser one. This is the case for pretty much all cameras -- the lens is still the most important when it comes to image quality.

That's what I am thinking and trying to decide on a newer body or just start building a lens collection. I really don't know that I need all the weather sealing. But I have noticed the pics online looks much better on the k-7. I suspect its because it is being used by folks that have better lenses, are better photographers, and better at PP, while the k-x is used by more amateurs like me and just using the kit lens.

dragonfly · 06-22-2010, 10:06 AM

That is certainly possible.

Ira · 06-22-2010, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by justtakingpics

That's what I am thinking and trying to decide on a newer body or just start building a lens collection. I really don't know that I need all the weather sealing. But I have noticed the pics online looks much better on the k-7. I suspect its because it is being used by folks that have better lenses, are better photographers, and better at PP, while the k-x is used by more amateurs like me and just using the kit lens.

You might as well go for your lenses, since a replacement for the K7 is going to be coming soon anyway

Marc Sabatella · 06-22-2010, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by justtakingpics

That's what I am thinking and trying to decide on a newer body or just start building a lens collection. I really don't know that I need all the weather sealing. But I have noticed the pics online looks much better on the k-7. I suspect its because it is being used by folks that have better lenses, are better photographers, and better at PP, while the k-x is used by more amateurs like me and just using the kit lens.

I'm sure there are great K-x pictures out there too, but sure, as a general tendency, you've hit the nail on the head. Any DSLR is capable of stunningly amazing images - it's going to come down to the photographer and to a lesser extent the lenses much more than the camera. Exactly as I tried to point out in a very similar thread you started few weeks ago. It was true then, it was true five years before that, it was true 50 years ago, and it will remain true five years from now. Not sure abut fifty years from now - maybe there will be advances in camera technology that will finally change the equation.

justtakingpics · 06-22-2010, 10:22 AM

sorry if I asked before. I forget sometimes.

Ubuntu_user · 06-22-2010, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by justtakingpics

sorry if I asked before. I forget sometimes.

No problem. We all forget at times!

06-22-2010, 08:36 AM	#1
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06-22-2010, 08:46 AM	#2
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	Originally posted by justtakingpics I know the k-7 has more megapixels but not much. I wanted to know, all other things like composition, lighting, etc. being equal and using the same lens, can a K-x produce and image of the same quality as the K-7? Thanks. No, but the photographer behind the camera probably could.

06-22-2010, 09:11 AM	#3
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	I'd say that "practically" yes. Especialy if shooting RAW and /or on higher ISO. The only thing that K-7 sensor has going for it is 2mpx more AFAIK. Now these count for the whole area of the sensor so it's only marginally bigger pic and unless not severly cropped or enlarged pic from K-x could look just as good IMO... but then, I've never tried it

06-22-2010, 09:17 AM	#4
KxBlaze Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,602	Yes it can, to the naked eye. If you do a 100% or larger crop or pixel peep than you can notice the K7's 2 more MP. I've done a side by side comparison and with the same settings on both cameras I got 2 idential pictures, as is, using an M 50mm 1.7.

06-22-2010, 09:19 AM	#5
GatorPentax Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Photos: Gallery Posts: 372	both are cropped sensors so honestly i dont see why not. What the K7 has going for it are a better build, completely weather sealed, extra dials, magnesium body, internal prism, etc. As far as picture quality, the Kx and K7 should be about equal. Its just more difficult with the Kx because it has less dials and internal focusing points...... and the Kx feels like a toy in comparison.

06-22-2010, 09:36 AM	#6
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369	Originally posted by justtakingpics I know the k-7 has more megapixels but not much. I wanted to know, all other things like composition, lighting, etc. being equal and using the same lens, can a K-x produce and image of the same quality as the K-7? Thanks. I've noticed that I tend to like the K-7s photos better, but I've never quantified this difference and it may just be in my head -- I think it might have something to do with the K-7s great white balance. The difference is slight enough, however, that a K-x with a better lens will certainly outperform a K-7 with a lesser one. This is the case for pretty much all cameras -- the lens is still the most important when it comes to image quality.

06-22-2010, 09:44 AM	#7
justtakingpics Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 288 Original Poster	Originally posted by Urkeldaedalus I've noticed that I tend to like the K-7s photos better, but I've never quantified this difference and it may just be in my head -- I think it might have something to do with the K-7s great white balance. The difference is slight enough, however, that a K-x with a better lens will certainly outperform a K-7 with a lesser one. This is the case for pretty much all cameras -- the lens is still the most important when it comes to image quality. That's what I am thinking and trying to decide on a newer body or just start building a lens collection. I really don't know that I need all the weather sealing. But I have noticed the pics online looks much better on the k-7. I suspect its because it is being used by folks that have better lenses, are better photographers, and better at PP, while the k-x is used by more amateurs like me and just using the kit lens.

06-22-2010, 10:06 AM	#8
dragonfly Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: on the wall Photos: Gallery Posts: 715	That is certainly possible.

06-22-2010, 10:06 AM	#9
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by justtakingpics That's what I am thinking and trying to decide on a newer body or just start building a lens collection. I really don't know that I need all the weather sealing. But I have noticed the pics online looks much better on the k-7. I suspect its because it is being used by folks that have better lenses, are better photographers, and better at PP, while the k-x is used by more amateurs like me and just using the kit lens. You might as well go for your lenses, since a replacement for the K7 is going to be coming soon anyway

06-22-2010, 10:15 AM	#10
Marc Sabatella Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,685	Originally posted by justtakingpics That's what I am thinking and trying to decide on a newer body or just start building a lens collection. I really don't know that I need all the weather sealing. But I have noticed the pics online looks much better on the k-7. I suspect its because it is being used by folks that have better lenses, are better photographers, and better at PP, while the k-x is used by more amateurs like me and just using the kit lens. I'm sure there are great K-x pictures out there too, but sure, as a general tendency, you've hit the nail on the head. Any DSLR is capable of stunningly amazing images - it's going to come down to the photographer and to a lesser extent the lenses much more than the camera. Exactly as I tried to point out in a very similar thread you started few weeks ago. It was true then, it was true five years before that, it was true 50 years ago, and it will remain true five years from now. Not sure abut fifty years from now - maybe there will be advances in camera technology that will finally change the equation.

06-22-2010, 10:22 AM	#11
justtakingpics Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 288 Original Poster	sorry if I asked before. I forget sometimes.

06-22-2010, 10:40 AM	#12
Ubuntu_user Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,545	Originally posted by justtakingpics sorry if I asked before. I forget sometimes. No problem. We all forget at times!