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06-24-2010, 12:04 AM   #1
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New old focussing screen for DS

I am interested in getting an old Pentax manual body (faulty one) and sanding the split screen down to size to fit into my istDS. Does anyone have any recommendations about which model body would be best to use?

I searched the forums and found this post about the ME Super screen in the K10D (which has the same pentaprism and magnification size as the istDS).
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/51800-i-made-my-ow...ng-screen.html

06-24-2010, 02:20 AM   #2
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If you're just doing it for the fun of it, i guess any camera with interchangeable focusing screen would work. If you're doing it because it's cheap, I can hardly believe it's worth the trouble compared to a Chinese k1000 screen on ebay. Either way, I enjoy my old lenses much more since I had the split screen. good luck!
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You can also still order brand new MZ-m (ZX-m) focus screens right from Pentax, for a few dollars each (got mine at 4€).

They work well with the K10/K20 metering, quite linear until f/8 or f/11...

Let those old film camera live!
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it's not worth the time and effort to cut down a screen from an old camera

I have a split screen that I got from Jinfinance for my *istD for $25 which works perfectly.

I believe the same screen fits in *istD, DS, K10D K20D

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I just like the idea of being able to do it myself and being able to use the same screen that I have in my ME Super. These cameras go for about GBP 10 including postage when there is something wrong with them, so it will work out a bit cheaper and also leave me with spare parts for my ME Super and give me some knowledge of what it takes to get the ME Super apart.

I found another link on the interweb for someone who did it to his Nikon:
Alex's Blog: Fitting a K3 Focus Screen to a D70/D70s
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
it's not worth the time and effort to cut down a screen from an old camera

I have a split screen that I got from Jinfinance for my *istD for $25 which works perfectly.

I believe the same screen fits in *istD, DS, K10D K20D
But isn't the screen of a ME Super much brighter/better than a screen form Jinfinance?

I have the same issue, i just bought a Pentax MV and a ME Super on a local flee market and am thinking to take them apart an replace my Jinfinance screen with one of them.

I already found out that the ME super has a better screen than the MV

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This is my suspicion, that selling fake K1000 modified screens for USD 25 out of China would be too tempting to pass up. I'm sure the screens work, but I'd rather have a genuine Pentax/Nikon/Oly/Minolta screen.
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Well, there is no reason why you only should want a genuine screen, it's the same thing as only using genuine lenses. There is no genuine and not genuine, only Pentax and other brands.

I got my present screen from Focusing Screen and they have lots types of screens, that aren't avaiable at Pentax.
But my present screen isn't as good as the Katz i had in my former K100D.

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If someone makes a screen today in a little factory and does it badly and labels it as being a modified K1000 (Pentax) then its not a Pentax. So I'd rather not go the Ebay.hk route. I am also considering other screens too, having looked at the Focusingscreen.com website. It seems like some of the other big camera manufacturers (Minolta, Nikon and Olympus) sold loads of specialised screens (for telephotos, macro, slow lenses, low light, architecture etc).

I'd be interested in testing some of these out, but given the success without shimming of another Pentaxforums guy and the ME Super screen/K10d combo, I figured that the Pentax screens are more likely to be the right width and potentially optimised for the register of the lens?
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Didn't like Pentax MX-screen; ¡Canon EC-A is great!

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I tried with the screen of my old and broken MX in my K10D. It is very dark, and the focussing-aid area is very big and quite obtrusive. Afterwards I bought a new Canon EC-A screen (34$) and sanded it down. It is much brighter, I suppose similiar to the original K10D screen, and much better for manual focussing, in the microprism area, and outside. And the focussing aid area is relatively small, just right for the APS-C format. The Canon EC-A doesn't have split screen, just microprisms. I prefer it that way, as I shoot mostly birds and insects. The microprisms work great with my DA*300/4; with a 1,5x TC I have to take care to put the eye in the centre of the viewfinder. With a 2xTC they are difficult to use (I think it is possible to get accustomed). As the microprism-area is not very big, it is easy to focus on the outer area of the screen.

Cheers - Klaus
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QuoteOriginally posted by dlacouture Quote
You can also still order brand new MZ-m (ZX-m) focus screens right from Pentax, for a few dollars each (got mine at 4€).

They work well with the K10/K20 metering, quite linear until f/8 or f/11...

Let those old film camera live!
hello couture...
can you tellme what kind MZ that you have , is it split screen ?
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Thanks for the suggestion Klaus, a quick google shows the Canon EC-A screen only costs USD 33 too. Sounds like it could be an optimal solution.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Klaus Quote
Hi

I tried with the screen of my old and broken MX in my K10D. It is very dark, and the focussing-aid area is very big and quite obtrusive.
Cheers - Klaus
When i compare the focus screen from my MX with the original K7 screen, the K7 screen seems even to be darker than the MX screen.
Also the microprism size is a very little bit smaller than the K7 screen from focusscreen.com.

I am very tempted to give it a try and take the screen from the MV or the ME super
Of course i can't compare them yet with the original screen because they aren't as easy removable as the MX screen.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Sakura Quote
But isn't the screen of a ME Super much brighter/better than a screen form Jinfinance?

I have the same issue, i just bought a Pentax MV and a ME Super on a local flee market and am thinking to take them apart an replace my Jinfinance screen with one of them.

I already found out that the ME super has a better screen than the MV
I can't vouch for the ME super screen, but I have no issues with the junfinance screen presently installed in my K10D

BUT, i have to temper this with the fact that all my M42 lenses are FAST. Except for my 200F3.5, everything else is F2.8 or faster, with everything between 35 and 85 being F2 or faster. Even below 35 mm I am F2.5 for 28 and 24 mm.

I don't notice an issue, but someone using old slow lenses like some of the f4=f5.6 might have issues, but i went for primes to get faster lenses
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QuoteOriginally posted by hoojammyflip Quote
If someone makes a screen today in a little factory and does it badly and labels it as being a modified K1000 (Pentax) then its not a Pentax. So I'd rather not go the Ebay.hk route. I am also considering other screens too, having looked at the Focusingscreen.com website. It seems like some of the other big camera manufacturers (Minolta, Nikon and Olympus) sold loads of specialised screens (for telephotos, macro, slow lenses, low light, architecture etc).

I'd be interested in testing some of these out, but given the success without shimming of another Pentaxforums guy and the ME Super screen/K10d combo, I figured that the Pentax screens are more likely to be the right width and potentially optimised for the register of the lens?
I never had to shim my jinfinance screen for hte K10D. With respect to the issue of shims, that can be just as much an issue of camera maker as screen maker IMO
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