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06-29-2010, 11:36 AM   #16
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K7 is a no-brainer at these prices . Vs K-x - weather sealed, faster AF, AF points in viewfinder, specialised white balance sensor, optional grip, AF light, on par with K-x ISO if you shoot raw, more quick access buttons

non black K-x if you go street-style or very often in low light, smaller lighter, using AAs

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cheap option: K7+ kit (K7 kit is superior vs Kx kit)+ sh A 50mm f1.7 for low light shooting ( manual focus 60-70 USD)+ sh 70-300 AF zoom (Tamron/Sigma around USD 120-150) all this for around 1000-1100 USD

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K-X with two kit lenses should cost less than 800. the two kit lenses should cover most of the focal lengths. K-X is a great camera for that price.

its selling at about 730 at dell.
Pentax K-x Black 12.4MP Digital SLR Camera Kit with 18-55MM and 55-300MM Lens : Camera, Photo & Video | Dell

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This has mostly been covered in this thread, but this link has a timeline at the bottom of the page which shows modern Pentax cameras.
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I'd recommend the K-x for you: it's got the most bang for your buck and really quite a few features, and you'll end up having a camera plus two lenses for the lowest cost possible.

Pentax K-x + 18-55mm lens + 50-200mm lens = $649


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In my experience, a flash is very very useful for capturing pictures of kids indoors. To start with I only had a fast quality prime, a DA40, but I found that even f2.8 indoors is often not enough with indoor lighting, and 2.8 is often not enough depth of field anyway. Since I got the Metz-48 external flash (~$220) itís made a massive difference to getting nice photos indoors.

So my recommendation is to get the K-x with the 2 lens 55-300mm kit, and get the Metz-48 flash. That should be under your $1k budget. The next upgrade I would recommend would be to sell the 18-55 kit lens and buy the 17-50 f2.8 Tamron.
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K7, much easier acces to controls, very useful if you want to shoot manual.

Look for second hand cameras...more and more K7 are available in mint conditions these days.. You can "grow" more with your K7.

I shopped aroud a bit and made substantial savings, espatially by loooking for good 2nd hand pricing.
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I'd highly recommend the K200D, especially the one I have listed in the marketplace. body+18-55+50-200 lenses, well under your budget. And as we know, if that makes hubby happy, that makes the whole house happy.
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I don't know whether this is the right place in the forum...But I am asking myself the same question. However, I nailed it down to two cameras.

The Pentax K-x or the K20D.

I know that those two cameras have a different target audience...but I don't really know which one I am. I am certainly not a SLR beginner. I am shooting SLR pictures since a couple of years (I guess 5 or so). Nevertheless, I am an DSLR beginner. So far I am still shooting analog. At the moment I want to change that. I have quite severe budget constraints, and at the moment you get the K20D (second hand) for the same price as the K-x. I certainly can't stretch my budget to the K-7 that's not doable. As you all know the K-x is en par with the Canikon 500D and D5000which are much more expensive. I am happy for any advice.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Phineas Quote
As you all know the K-x is en par with the Canikon 500D and D5000which are much more expensive. I am happy for any advice.
Can't comment on the K20D, but I chose the Kx over the Canon D500 (T1i) and the Nikon D-5000. After a little research, the decision was easy. Loved the Kx so much I bought a K7 too.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JHD Quote
Can't comment on the K20D, but I chose the Kx over the Canon D500 (T1i) and the Nikon D-5000. After a little research, the decision was easy. Loved the Kx so much I bought a K7 too.

I totally agree....I would always choose the Kx over the Canon or Nikon...but the decision between K20D and Kx is much harder...did the soft- and hardware in the time from the presentation of the K20D advance so much that the Kx is the logical choice or is the development incremental enough that I should go for the K20D?
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The only major reasons to choose the K-x over the K20D are video and the much smaller size, if that matters to you. Aside from that, it has *slightly* better IQ at extremely high ISO (3200-6400), and maybe *slightly* faster AF in certain situations (probably not as good in others, although I'm going just on reports from others - I don't own either), and I beleive a somewhat faster frame rate as well. But the K20D is the *far* more full-featured camera overall.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Marc Sabatella Quote
The only major reasons to choose the K-x over the K20D are video and the much smaller size, if that matters to you. Aside from that, it has *slightly* better IQ at extremely high ISO (3200-6400), and maybe *slightly* faster AF in certain situations (probably not as good in others, although I'm going just on reports from others - I don't own either), and I beleive a somewhat faster frame rate as well. But the K20D is the *far* more full-featured camera overall.

Since I've never shoot any videos, since that is not possible with an analog SLR I don't know what I am missing out....But I never had the feeling "Now I want to shoot a video instead of a picture" So I guess I will go for a second hand K20D...thanks for the support....

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QuoteOriginally posted by Phineas Quote
I totally agree....I would always choose the Kx over the Canon or Nikon...but the decision between K20D and Kx is much harder...did the soft- and hardware in the time from the presentation of the K20D advance so much that the Kx is the logical choice or is the development incremental enough that I should go for the K20D?
Go K-x with your budget.

Same here I had a K-x as a replacement for my broken Nikon D-80 due to budget constrains. I am supposed to buy a D-90.

However I attended an event hosted by my Nikon / Epson dealer friend. It is a photographers seminar and Canon users also attended. I'm the only Pentax user there.

I tried the D-5000, D-90, and D-700 using the same Manual mode, scene, object, and ordinary room light. I also tried the Canon EOS 500D T1i and EOS 550D T2i

D-5000 was dismal and can't match the K-x after several shots. D-90 was just the same as the K-x shots that I made and I cannot see any difference on the D-700.

The Canons that I tried were noisy at ISO 12,800 and my K-x is still ok at 12,800.

Then I compared the camera's test images here Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ô Digital Camera Image Comparison Page

And saw this actual D-90 and K-x user FLASH OF LIGHT: Nikon d90 vs. Pentax Kx...on the Job comparisons

They justified my decision on choosing the K-x and since I am more of a low light seldom flash user, I am not convinced on going to K-7 after checking the comparisons and on what I have read on it's Samsung Sensor. K-7 could have been greater if it used the Sony Exmor K-x sensor. Compare the K-x and K-7 here Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ô Digital Camera Image Comparison Page so that you can decide if K-x or K-7
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As the owner of both a K10D and K-X, I'd say go with the K-X. If you want to push the $1000 limit try and get a body only and the Sigma 18-250 lens with it.

That's my wife's camera and I find myself grabbing it more than I do my K10 now. I do like the manual controls, top display and general "feel" of the K10 better ( I also have battery pack on it), but it can't even come close to the K-X's speed for rapid fire, and you said you will be taking lot's of soccer games etc. so you will really like that feature.
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QuoteOriginally posted by tele_pathic Quote
I'd highly recommend the K200D...
I would recommend the K200D as well. Perhaps the best entry level DSLR ever. Has all the most essential features in a WR DSLR (shake reduction, sensor cleaning, 10mpx+ sensor) without the unnecessary frills--the closest any DSLR has come to being a digital K100 equivalent. A used copy can often be found, on ebay, at the marketplace here, or at keh.com, for under $450. That leaves $550+ for lenses (and, if you are willing to make do with older manual focus glass, $550 can get you 4, 5, maybe even 6 very nice lenses.
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