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06-27-2010, 12:51 AM   #1
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List of Pentax DLSRs equipped with Sony sensor?

Hi guys,

Since I'm quite impressed with my K100D and found out that it's equipped with the Sony sensor instead of the one from Samsung, I want to find out what are the other Pentax DSLRs that are also equipped with the Sony's in case my CBA (Camera Buying Addiction) kicks in

Been browsing and searching here for an official list of Pentax DLSRs that are equipped with Sony sensor but can't seem to find one. Information is all over the place.

Here is the list I've collected so far:
  1. K100D
  2. K100D Super
  3. K-x

What else?

Thanks!

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K-m, K10D, K200D
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QuoteOriginally posted by jerrymouse Quote
K-m, K10D, K200D
Are you sure K10D uses Sony sensor? I thought it uses the Samsung's one
06-27-2010, 02:26 AM   #4
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That's an interesting question. I checked what the dpreview specs tell us:

K-7: CMOS, Samsung
K-x: CMOS, - (well, we know it's by Sony)
K10D: CCD, "unknown"
K20D: CMOS, Samsung
K100D Super: CCD, Sony
K100D: CCD, Sony
K110D: CCD, Sony
K200D: CCD, -
K2000/K-m: CCD, "unknown"

so not much new information over there.

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K10D DEFINITELY used a Samsung sensor and not Sony.
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K10D DEFINITELY used a Samsung sensor and not Sony.
I thought so too as the K10D was developed in a collaboration between Pentax and Samsung so it makes no sense to use a Sony sensor on it.
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My bad. I was under the impression that K200D, K10D and K-m share same (or a little bit revised) 10Mpx CCD from Sony (similar to D40X/D60 sensor). I stand corrected.
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This thread has gone off the rails. All Pentax APS-C DSLR's except the K20D and K-7 have used Sony sensors.

K-x: Sony CMOS, - 12mp
K-7: Samsung CMOS, 14.5mp (4-channel)
K20D: Samsung CMOS - 14.5mp (2-channel)
K2000/K-m: Sony CCD - 10mp
K200D: Sony CCD - 10mp
K10D: Sony CCD - 10mp
K100D Super: Sony CCD, 6mp
K100D: Sony CCD - 6mp
K110D: Sony CCD - 6mp
*ist: Sony CCD - 6mp

I've owned a K100D Super, K20D and K-x. Choosing a camera because it has a Sony sensor is misguided IMO. A default K-x image looks more like a K20D image than it does a K100D image. More importantly, a camera is a hell of a lot more than just a sensor.

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The K10D uses a Sony CCD sensor (ICX493AQA), and versions of this sensor, or its predecessor (ICX483AQA) are used in the Nikon D200, D80 and the Sony A100.
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The K10D uses a Sony CCD sensor (ICX493AQA), and versions of this sensor, or its predecessor (ICX483AQA) are used in the Nikon D200, D80 and the Sony A100.
Ok seems there are several persons adamant about the K10D uses Sony sensor. Does is mean that the Samsung GX-10 that was developed in collaboration with the K10D also uses a Sony sensor?
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This thread has gone off the rails. All Pentax APS-C DSLR's except the K20D and K-7 have used Sony sensors.

K-x: Sony CMOS, - 12mp
K-7: Samsung CMOS, 14.5mp (4-channel)
K20D: Samsung CMOS - 14.5mp (2-channel)
K2000/K-m: Sony CCD - 10mp
K200D: Sony CCD - 10mp
K10D: Sony CCD - 10mp
K100D Super: Sony CCD, 6mp
K100D: Sony CCD - 6mp
K110D: Sony CCD - 6mp
*ist: Sony CCD - 6mp

I've owned a K100D Super, K20D and K-x. Choosing a camera because it has a Sony sensor is misguided IMO. A default K-x image looks more like a K20D image than it does a K100D image. More importantly, a camera is a hell of a lot more than just a sensor.
Agreed, a camera is much more than just a sensor but it helps a lot to start with a great sensor.
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QuoteOriginally posted by CrazyNuts Quote
K10D DEFINITELY used a Samsung sensor and not Sony.
It's interesting that you would make such a definitive statement, since the sensor specifications and image size are identical to the Sony sensor in the Nikon D200. Pentax never indicated who the manufactured the sensor. My money rides on Sony.

Also, if my memory serves me right Benjamin Kanarek indicated in one of his post
that Pentax would not use Sony sensor in the generation of DSLR well after the K10D had be on the market. This leads me to believe that the first Pentax with a Samsung sensor was the K20D.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ducdao Quote
Ok seems there are several persons adamant about the K10D uses Sony sensor. Does is mean that the Samsung GX-10 that was developed in collaboration with the K10D also uses a Sony sensor?
Yes. It's kind of stretch to say the GX-10 was "developed in collaboration with the K10D". I believe it is more like, Pentax developed it by themselves, then licensed the design to samsung to build their own clone. Just as was the case with the *istDS2 and the Samsung GX-1S.

And to be clear, there aren't just two sensors out there (one from Sony and one from Samsung). There are two different Samsung sensors (one for K20D, a different one for K-7), and at least three different Sony sensors used in Pentax cameras (the 6Mp sensor in the *ist and K1x0D series, the 10MP sensor in the K10D, K200D, and K-m/K2000), and the 12MP sensor in the K-x. And it seems the three models using 10MP Sony sensors actually used different different variations, or at least different ancillary hardware - so they actually all perform differently, especially with respect to high ISO.

The 6MP cameras like your K100D are all long discontinued. But it's really just as well - although those are fine and impressive cameras in their own rights, they are outclassed by most of the cameras that supplanted them. The K-x (a completely different Sony sensor) and K20D (using one of the two Samsung sensors) in particular would be the models that would be a step up from the K100D. All the other 6MP models would be a step down (no SR!), although the *ist D and DS do at least have a larger viewfinder - but then, so does the K20D, but the K20D also has SR, over twice the resolution, better high ISO capability, weather sealing, more camera controls, etc. That's the camera to step up to, I'd say, if you're looking at older models. The K-x is also a step up with regard to the sensor itself, although more of a step sideways in other respects.
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QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
This thread has gone off the rails. All Pentax APS-C DSLR's except the K20D and K-7 have used Sony sensors.

K-x: Sony CMOS, - 12mp
K-7: Samsung CMOS, 14.5mp (4-channel)
K20D: Samsung CMOS - 14.5mp (2-channel)
K2000/K-m: Sony CCD - 10mp
K200D: Sony CCD - 10mp
K10D: Sony CCD - 10mp
K100D Super: Sony CCD, 6mp
K100D: Sony CCD - 6mp
K110D: Sony CCD - 6mp
*ist: Sony CCD - 6mp

I've owned a K100D Super, K20D and K-x. Choosing a camera because it has a Sony sensor is misguided IMO. A default K-x image looks more like a K20D image than it does a K100D image. More importantly, a camera is a hell of a lot more than just a sensor.


Thatīs absolute correct:ugh:
The processor is made by Fujitsu,some electronic parts made by Samsung,like in some Bodys before.
The first real Coproduktion was the K20.
Pentax told approx. 80% Pentax 20% Samsung.
Electronicparts are purchased from long time before.
Same with Fujitsu,Sanyo,Sony.........

Best regards,Andy
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For some reason I had thought that Kodak created the original 6 megapixel sensor that the different variations of that generation was made with.
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