So, was K-7 a success??

GeneV · 07-14-2010, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by MPrince

As far as I am concerned, the K100D remains a relevant camera.

Agreed. I usually shoot raw, but, among many other nice things about the K100d, I still like its bright, snappy, small jpegs better than those from my other bodies for any time I need to use a quick shot without pp.

Leaf Fan · 07-14-2010, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Russell-Evans

I kind of miss the left hand front edge on the K10/20D as well when chimping and general menu diving.

I guess if other people are happy with it, then I'm in a minority of one. I just thought I would thrown in my opinion as I do hope the next, next body will revert back to the older style.

I'm in the same boat, I find the K-7 a little small for my hands, however, I've decided to overlook the size/ergonomics as I'm really enjoying it for taking pictures.

I find that I can't wrap the fingers of my left hand around the bottom of the lens the way I could with the K10D/K20D as they squish/touch my right hand fingers, mainly pinky and ring finger.

But there are many more features I like than dislike. One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options, for either landscape or vertical alignment. That's a really minor yet great innovation. As well the other features more than make up for the size for me.

ChooseAName · 07-14-2010, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Leaf Fan

But there are many more features I like than dislike. One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options, for either landscape or vertical alignment. That's a really minor yet great innovation. As well the other features more than make up for the size for me.

I'd just like to add that this was automatic rotation feature was not original to the K-7. It was present at least as far back as the K200D, perhaps earlier, but I don't know because that is my first SLR.

Leaf Fan · 07-14-2010, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by ChooseAName

I'd just like to add that this was automatic rotation feature was not original to the K-7. It was present at least as far back as the K200D, perhaps earlier, but I don't know because that is my first SLR.

Didn't know that. From the K10D to the K20D, to my K-7 - on the K-7 is the first time I've seen it.

yeatzee · 07-14-2010, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by ChooseAName

I'd just like to add that this was automatic rotation feature was not original to the K-7. It was present at least as far back as the K200D, perhaps earlier, but I don't know because that is my first SLR.

No, the K200d does not do what he is describing.

LFLee · 07-14-2010, 11:18 AM

Yeatzee,

Mine k200 did that auto rotation thingy, probably u can change that in settings.

Lee

yeatzee · 07-14-2010, 11:29 AM

He is referring, unless im clearly mistaken, how if you take a vertical picture and click the playback button to review it you can turn the camera vertical and the picture will fill the whole LCD. The settings when using the status screen also flip when you turn the camera.

The K200d does nothing close to this.

CWyatt · 07-14-2010, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Russell-Evans

That edge is what I don't like. My hand wraps around the K10/20D with my finger tips landing right at the curve where the grip transitions into the body. The K-7's fit is loose in my hand. Either I'm holding that edge with my finger tips, or I'm curling the last knuckles to get more of the underside of my fingers on the grip. Either way seems alien. The K-7's feel in the hand reminds me of the Nikons and Canons I try every once in a while at Target, the low end bodies. I don't know the models, but the 550 looks like it would be one of them.

Maybe you can kind of see the resemblance in DPR's photos, Canon 550 on the left, K-7 on the right, to understand what I mean?

Compare the above to the wider grip of the K10/20D.

I kind of miss the left hand front edge on the K10/20D as well when chimping and general menu diving.

I guess if other people are happy with it, then I'm in a minority of one. I just thought I would thrown in my opinion as I do hope the next, next body will revert back to the older style.

Thank you
Russell

Hi Russell, I do see your point. However I'm on the opposite side, I find the camera very easy to carry and move quickly. I use a hand strap, and it sits in my hand all day nicer than the (good) K10D. Like Nubi I find you can carry it casually and easilly but with good control. Each to their own I guess, but I hope Pentax keeps this kind of design.

robgo2 · 07-14-2010, 02:31 PM

Every camera involves compromises of some sort. In the case of the K-7, its high ISO performance and AF may be slightly below the competition, but only slightly. On the other hand, its compact size, light weight, sweet ergonomics and build quality are class-leading, and its in-body SR sets it above Nikon and Canon. And all of this comes at a price considerably below comparable cameras from other manufacturers. As I understand it, the K-7 has sold reasonably well and has earned the respect of knowledgeable people within the photography industry. Overall, then, it must be regarded as a success.

Rob

CWyatt · 07-14-2010, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by robgo2:

As I understand it, the K-7 has sold reasonably well and has earned the respect of knowledgeable people within the photography industry.

Well one interesting thing is where Pentax has come in my city. Going from one over-priced K20D in the whole of the city that I could find, there are now K-7's int he major shops, and a small selection of Pentax lenses. In the two major photography shops, there's at least one staff member in each who has switched to Pentax for the K-7 as well.

**Ex Finn.** · 07-14-2010, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Leaf Fan

I'm in the same boat, I find the K-7 a little small for my hands, however, I've decided to overlook the size/ergonomics as I'm really enjoying it for taking pictures.

I find that I can't wrap the fingers of my left hand around the bottom of the lens the way I could with the K10D/K20D as they squish/touch my right hand fingers, mainly pinky and ring finger.

But there are many more features I like than dislike. One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options, for either landscape or vertical alignment. That's a really minor yet great innovation. As well the other features more than make up for the size for me.

"One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options"
It`s really cool upside down

.

monching · 07-14-2010, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by Leaf Fan

I'm in the same boat, I find the K-7 a little small for my hands, however, I've decided to overlook the size/ergonomics as I'm really enjoying it for taking pictures.

I find that I can't wrap the fingers of my left hand around the bottom of the lens the way I could with the K10D/K20D as they squish/touch my right hand fingers, mainly pinky and ring finger.

But there are many more features I like than dislike. One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options, for either landscape or vertical alignment. That's a really minor yet great innovation. As well the other features more than make up for the size for me.

Put a battery grip on it and it will no longer be small

Nubi · 07-16-2010, 12:08 AM

I wonder how K-7 will be looked up on, in comparison to models before and after. A game changer like K10D certainly was?? Is K-7 more significant than K10 from the historical perspective??

I am not sure.

**Rondec** · 07-16-2010, 04:19 AM

Originally posted by Nubi

I wonder how K-7 will be looked up on, in comparison to models before and after. A game changer like K10D certainly was?? Is K-7 more significant than K10 from the historical perspective??

I am not sure.

20 years from now, none of the SLRs currently in production will be remembered at all. This is one way in which digital is different from the film days when a great camera could be produced --- almost without change -- for ten or more years. The film changed, but the camera remained the same. Now, cameras change so fast that even a "game changer" is hardly remembered five years later.

GeneV · 07-16-2010, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

20 years from now, none of the SLRs currently in production will be remembered at all. This is one way in which digital is different from the film days what a great camera could be produced --- almost without change -- for ten or more years. The film changed, but the camera remained the same. Now, cameras change so fast that even a "game changer" is hardly remembered five years later.

True. Partly that is the case because even 50+ years ago, film was a mature technology.

07-14-2010, 03:15 PM	#56
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by Leaf Fan I'm in the same boat, I find the K-7 a little small for my hands, however, I've decided to overlook the size/ergonomics as I'm really enjoying it for taking pictures. I find that I can't wrap the fingers of my left hand around the bottom of the lens the way I could with the K10D/K20D as they squish/touch my right hand fingers, mainly pinky and ring finger. But there are many more features I like than dislike. One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options, for either landscape or vertical alignment. That's a really minor yet great innovation. As well the other features more than make up for the size for me. "One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options" It`s really cool upside down.

07-16-2010, 12:08 AM	#58
Nubi Guest	20 years from now . . . . I wonder how K-7 will be looked up on, in comparison to models before and after. A game changer like K10D certainly was?? Is K-7 more significant than K10 from the historical perspective?? I am not sure.

07-16-2010, 04:19 AM	#59
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Nubi I wonder how K-7 will be looked up on, in comparison to models before and after. A game changer like K10D certainly was?? Is K-7 more significant than K10 from the historical perspective?? I am not sure. 20 years from now, none of the SLRs currently in production will be remembered at all. This is one way in which digital is different from the film days when a great camera could be produced --- almost without change -- for ten or more years. The film changed, but the camera remained the same. Now, cameras change so fast that even a "game changer" is hardly remembered five years later. Last edited by Rondec; 07-16-2010 at 07:17 AM.

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07-14-2010, 10:32 AM	#46
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by MPrince As far as I am concerned, the K100D remains a relevant camera. Agreed. I usually shoot raw, but, among many other nice things about the K100d, I still like its bright, snappy, small jpegs better than those from my other bodies for any time I need to use a quick shot without pp.

07-14-2010, 10:44 AM	#47
Leaf Fan Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada eh! Photos: Gallery Posts: 673	Originally posted by Russell-Evans I kind of miss the left hand front edge on the K10/20D as well when chimping and general menu diving. I guess if other people are happy with it, then I'm in a minority of one. I just thought I would thrown in my opinion as I do hope the next, next body will revert back to the older style. I'm in the same boat, I find the K-7 a little small for my hands, however, I've decided to overlook the size/ergonomics as I'm really enjoying it for taking pictures. I find that I can't wrap the fingers of my left hand around the bottom of the lens the way I could with the K10D/K20D as they squish/touch my right hand fingers, mainly pinky and ring finger. But there are many more features I like than dislike. One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options, for either landscape or vertical alignment. That's a really minor yet great innovation. As well the other features more than make up for the size for me.

07-14-2010, 11:03 AM	#48
ChooseAName Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southeast USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 390	Originally posted by Leaf Fan But there are many more features I like than dislike. One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options, for either landscape or vertical alignment. That's a really minor yet great innovation. As well the other features more than make up for the size for me. I'd just like to add that this was automatic rotation feature was not original to the K-7. It was present at least as far back as the K200D, perhaps earlier, but I don't know because that is my first SLR.

07-14-2010, 11:07 AM	#49
Leaf Fan Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada eh! Photos: Gallery Posts: 673	Originally posted by ChooseAName I'd just like to add that this was automatic rotation feature was not original to the K-7. It was present at least as far back as the K200D, perhaps earlier, but I don't know because that is my first SLR. Didn't know that. From the K10D to the K20D, to my K-7 - on the K-7 is the first time I've seen it.

07-14-2010, 11:13 AM	#50
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by ChooseAName I'd just like to add that this was automatic rotation feature was not original to the K-7. It was present at least as far back as the K200D, perhaps earlier, but I don't know because that is my first SLR. No, the K200d does not do what he is describing.

07-14-2010, 11:18 AM	#51
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Yeatzee, Mine k200 did that auto rotation thingy, probably u can change that in settings. Lee

07-14-2010, 11:29 AM	#52
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	He is referring, unless im clearly mistaken, how if you take a vertical picture and click the playback button to review it you can turn the camera vertical and the picture will fill the whole LCD. The settings when using the status screen also flip when you turn the camera. The K200d does nothing close to this.

07-14-2010, 01:22 PM	#53
CWyatt Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,291	Originally posted by Russell-Evans That edge is what I don't like. My hand wraps around the K10/20D with my finger tips landing right at the curve where the grip transitions into the body. The K-7's fit is loose in my hand. Either I'm holding that edge with my finger tips, or I'm curling the last knuckles to get more of the underside of my fingers on the grip. Either way seems alien. The K-7's feel in the hand reminds me of the Nikons and Canons I try every once in a while at Target, the low end bodies. I don't know the models, but the 550 looks like it would be one of them. Maybe you can kind of see the resemblance in DPR's photos, Canon 550 on the left, K-7 on the right, to understand what I mean? Compare the above to the wider grip of the K10/20D. I kind of miss the left hand front edge on the K10/20D as well when chimping and general menu diving. I guess if other people are happy with it, then I'm in a minority of one. I just thought I would thrown in my opinion as I do hope the next, next body will revert back to the older style. Thank you Russell Hi Russell, I do see your point. However I'm on the opposite side, I find the camera very easy to carry and move quickly. I use a hand strap, and it sits in my hand all day nicer than the (good) K10D. Like Nubi I find you can carry it casually and easilly but with good control. Each to their own I guess, but I hope Pentax keeps this kind of design.

07-14-2010, 02:31 PM	#54
robgo2 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 1,125	Every camera involves compromises of some sort. In the case of the K-7, its high ISO performance and AF may be slightly below the competition, but only slightly. On the other hand, its compact size, light weight, sweet ergonomics and build quality are class-leading, and its in-body SR sets it above Nikon and Canon. And all of this comes at a price considerably below comparable cameras from other manufacturers. As I understand it, the K-7 has sold reasonably well and has earned the respect of knowledgeable people within the photography industry. Overall, then, it must be regarded as a success. Rob

07-14-2010, 02:52 PM	#55
CWyatt Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,291	Originally posted by robgo2: As I understand it, the K-7 has sold reasonably well and has earned the respect of knowledgeable people within the photography industry. Well one interesting thing is where Pentax has come in my city. Going from one over-priced K20D in the whole of the city that I could find, there are now K-7's int he major shops, and a small selection of Pentax lenses. In the two major photography shops, there's at least one staff member in each who has switched to Pentax for the K-7 as well.

07-14-2010, 10:27 PM	#57
monching Inactive Account Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 26	Originally posted by Leaf Fan I'm in the same boat, I find the K-7 a little small for my hands, however, I've decided to overlook the size/ergonomics as I'm really enjoying it for taking pictures. I find that I can't wrap the fingers of my left hand around the bottom of the lens the way I could with the K10D/K20D as they squish/touch my right hand fingers, mainly pinky and ring finger. But there are many more features I like than dislike. One I love is the LCD screen automatically rotates the image when in review or looking at settings/menu options, for either landscape or vertical alignment. That's a really minor yet great innovation. As well the other features more than make up for the size for me. Put a battery grip on it and it will no longer be small

07-16-2010, 05:32 AM	#60
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Rondec 20 years from now, none of the SLRs currently in production will be remembered at all. This is one way in which digital is different from the film days what a great camera could be produced --- almost without change -- for ten or more years. The film changed, but the camera remained the same. Now, cameras change so fast that even a "game changer" is hardly remembered five years later. True. Partly that is the case because even 50+ years ago, film was a mature technology.