Tired of pentax

pov17 · 07-19-2010, 07:39 AM

Oh god I' ll never sell my lens. Stop. I was only angry beacuse yesterday night I was shooting in Milan for work and my AF went crazy and I blame some minor divinity for this. The day after a canonian, my friend, tried to make me a brianwash. Now that is day (with light sun and fantastic flying unicorns) i like my lens, my camera and all the things about that.

I don' t sell my lens

kytra · 07-19-2010, 07:48 AM

lol this is "bad Pentax day" thread?

dear OP, really, if you want to switch, quietly sell your lenses and body and go canikon. You will have no regrets except maybe the cost of lenses and weather sealing if you go to consumer bodies.

Pentax K7 is an evolution of K20, and FYI, the AF is really improved, along other stuff.

clark · 07-19-2010, 07:51 AM

it does annoy me how people go on and on and on about pentax AF performance- yes it sucks, I know, it's not pentax's strong point

their strong points are excellent quality primes for very little money, smaller bodies, DA ltd, and ergonomics

I only shoot pentax with manual focus primes, so I couldn't care less about AF performance (I use a d300 for that, which incidentally is far too big and heavy for everyday shooting)

Seeing as the d300 belongs to my dad so I can't use it that often i'm thinking of getting myself a second body to shoot with, and for video (because pentax video is not there yet), If I was to get something that body would be the canon 550d with a 70-200 f4l (because i'd only need AF for things like birding) and use an adaptor for pentax lenses

No camera is perfect:
Canon consumer lenses suck, they feel awful to manual focus (and L series are ridiculously priced, except the 70-200 f4l non is), also there is no second hand market for lenses so that sucks
there is the full frame upgrade path but tbh i'm done with the whole full frame thing, I started shooting film again and it's like going back to square one- I know how to shoot APS-C

Nikon d300 is too heavy for a crop camera, 7D is much lighter (I think), and I hate nikon's menu, live view and ergonomics

Sony are so damm expensive

Olympus I don't really know a lot about

so in my eyes pentax is exactly what I want- small, cheap, and good- now which other brand offers all that

edit: noise control on the kx smokes the canon 7d, and the d300 (too much noise reduction destroys image detail)

yeah I do feel for pentax, I do wish they'd come out with the perfect no complaints body, maybe then i'd invest in AF glass for the pentax system, because for now the idea of spending £600 on a lens with no guarantee about it's future ability is not something I wish to do

edit 2: I don't know why i'm saying this

magkelly · 07-19-2010, 08:23 AM

Count your blessings, sir. Not all of us can afford to buy a Pentax DSLR or any other for that matter. You have an absolutely beautiful camera, one many of us would practically sell our souls to have. You know each camera brand has their good things and their bad things, each camera, of any brand it's quirks. Nothing is ever perfect, but that camera? It comes darned close to it. MHO, think HARD before you sell it and swap.

**newmikey** · 07-19-2010, 08:32 AM

I'm also very tired of Pentax...my K20D keeps me busy all the time, cheapo lenses on Ebay are winking to me, eager to be purchased (ever increasing the weight of the camera bag on my poor shoulders) and my right index finger has calluses from pushing the shutter release. I am sure that with a lesser camera I would not be as tired!

It is soooo darned simple: like it, keep it; don't like it, buy something else. Keep shooting!

Leaf Fan · 07-19-2010, 08:42 AM

Buh-Bye.

Unsinkable II · 07-19-2010, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by pxpaulx

I believe this may be the fastest 5 step recovery the forum has seen

Russell-Evans · 07-19-2010, 09:28 AM

It is funny the amount of money people spend to better their Pentax kits when switching though. I'm not talking about the cost of things between systems either. It just seems like once someone makes up their mind to switch, any frugality is abandoned. If they had the Sigma 10-20mm on Pentax, then they have the Nikon 14-24mm on the switch sort of thing. It's like there is a need to make sure the decision is correct by gold bricking the entire switch. There can be no remorse.

Thank you
Russell

stevebrot · 07-19-2010, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by pov17

Oh god I' ll never sell my lens. Stop. I was only angry beacuse yesterday night I was shooting in Milan for work and my AF went crazy and I blame some minor divinity for this. The day after a canonian, my friend, tried to make me a brianwash. Now that is day (with light sun and fantastic flying unicorns) i like my lens, my camera and all the things about that.

I don' t sell my lens

Ha! Ha!

The Canon brainwash!!!

About a year ago I was at a local overlook taking photos and this guy walks up with a 50D and tries to take a picture. No go...focus will not lock. He tries again. Again, no go. A third try...no focus lock. Finally he puzzles over the camera, switches to manual focus and gets his shot. Meanwhile I am shooting away with my Pentax. Were conditions difficult for AF? Beats me! Late afternoon sun to our rear, clear sky, slight late summer haze, subject at infinity...what is there to confuse the camera?

To point is that there seems to be such thing a thing as a "bad AF day", both in Pentax and in Canon land!

Steve

pov17 · 07-19-2010, 09:50 AM

Pentax K10D K20D Focusing Screen - KatzEye Optics

Maybe I can buy this

clark · 07-19-2010, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by pov17

Pentax K10D K20D Focusing Screen - KatzEye Optics

Maybe I can buy this

yep, these are great- I was shooting on a pentax k2 and loved the screen so I looked into getting one for my ist DL (which btw cost me £200, 5 years ago)

i've just bought a split screen from an ebay seller called jinfinance, I was going to go with katz eye, but I figured it was too much money (jinfinance screen was ~$40) to invest in something when I think i'll be upgrading the camera sometime soon

i'll post my thoughts when I get it

pov17 · 07-19-2010, 11:16 AM

Many thanks I' m curious

JACOBY · 07-19-2010, 12:24 PM

He will be sorry

JACOBY · 07-19-2010, 12:43 PM

Speaking of e.bay just won a nice Pentax 135 f3.5 lens those old lenses are going strong on my k100d. had the d3000 nikon sold it and bought the pentax can do so much more it's like shooting film to me always in manual can't do that with the other consumer grade cameras around august my birthday the K7 will be sitting next to the other Love this site some great info oh yeah the old spotmatic still kicks also

Mike.P® · 07-19-2010, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by pov17

I' ve got no hope. If pentax will not change I' ve got to change system

07-19-2010, 07:51 AM	#18
clark Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 301	it does annoy me how people go on and on and on about pentax AF performance- yes it sucks, I know, it's not pentax's strong point their strong points are excellent quality primes for very little money, smaller bodies, DA ltd, and ergonomics I only shoot pentax with manual focus primes, so I couldn't care less about AF performance (I use a d300 for that, which incidentally is far too big and heavy for everyday shooting) Seeing as the d300 belongs to my dad so I can't use it that often i'm thinking of getting myself a second body to shoot with, and for video (because pentax video is not there yet), If I was to get something that body would be the canon 550d with a 70-200 f4l (because i'd only need AF for things like birding) and use an adaptor for pentax lenses No camera is perfect: Canon consumer lenses suck, they feel awful to manual focus (and L series are ridiculously priced, except the 70-200 f4l non is), also there is no second hand market for lenses so that sucks there is the full frame upgrade path but tbh i'm done with the whole full frame thing, I started shooting film again and it's like going back to square one- I know how to shoot APS-C Nikon d300 is too heavy for a crop camera, 7D is much lighter (I think), and I hate nikon's menu, live view and ergonomics Sony are so damm expensive Olympus I don't really know a lot about so in my eyes pentax is exactly what I want- small, cheap, and good- now which other brand offers all that edit: noise control on the kx smokes the canon 7d, and the d300 (too much noise reduction destroys image detail) yeah I do feel for pentax, I do wish they'd come out with the perfect no complaints body, maybe then i'd invest in AF glass for the pentax system, because for now the idea of spending £600 on a lens with no guarantee about it's future ability is not something I wish to do edit 2: I don't know why i'm saying this Last edited by clark; 07-19-2010 at 10:05 AM.

07-19-2010, 12:24 PM	#28
JACOBY Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PGH PENNA Posts: 340	oh well He will be sorry

07-19-2010, 12:43 PM	#29
JACOBY Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PGH PENNA Posts: 340	good find Speaking of e.bay just won a nice Pentax 135 f3.5 lens those old lenses are going strong on my k100d. had the d3000 nikon sold it and bought the pentax can do so much more it's like shooting film to me always in manual can't do that with the other consumer grade cameras around august my birthday the K7 will be sitting next to the other Love this site some great info oh yeah the old spotmatic still kicks also

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07-19-2010, 07:39 AM	#16
pov17 New Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 16 Original Poster	Oh god I' ll never sell my lens. Stop. I was only angry beacuse yesterday night I was shooting in Milan for work and my AF went crazy and I blame some minor divinity for this. The day after a canonian, my friend, tried to make me a brianwash. Now that is day (with light sun and fantastic flying unicorns) i like my lens, my camera and all the things about that. I don' t sell my lens

07-19-2010, 07:48 AM	#17
kytra Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bucharest Posts: 482	lol this is "bad Pentax day" thread? dear OP, really, if you want to switch, quietly sell your lenses and body and go canikon. You will have no regrets except maybe the cost of lenses and weather sealing if you go to consumer bodies. Pentax K7 is an evolution of K20, and FYI, the AF is really improved, along other stuff.

07-19-2010, 08:23 AM	#19
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901	Count your blessings, sir. Not all of us can afford to buy a Pentax DSLR or any other for that matter. You have an absolutely beautiful camera, one many of us would practically sell our souls to have. You know each camera brand has their good things and their bad things, each camera, of any brand it's quirks. Nothing is ever perfect, but that camera? It comes darned close to it. MHO, think HARD before you sell it and swap.

07-19-2010, 08:32 AM	#20
newmikey Site Supporter Join Date: May 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,287	I'm also very tired of Pentax...my K20D keeps me busy all the time, cheapo lenses on Ebay are winking to me, eager to be purchased (ever increasing the weight of the camera bag on my poor shoulders) and my right index finger has calluses from pushing the shutter release. I am sure that with a lesser camera I would not be as tired! It is soooo darned simple: like it, keep it; don't like it, buy something else. Keep shooting!

07-19-2010, 08:42 AM	#21
Leaf Fan Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada eh! Photos: Gallery Posts: 673	Buh-Bye.

07-19-2010, 09:14 AM	#22
Unsinkable II Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,352	Originally posted by pxpaulx I believe this may be the fastest 5 step recovery the forum has seen

07-19-2010, 09:28 AM	#23
Russell-Evans Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,553	It is funny the amount of money people spend to better their Pentax kits when switching though. I'm not talking about the cost of things between systems either. It just seems like once someone makes up their mind to switch, any frugality is abandoned. If they had the Sigma 10-20mm on Pentax, then they have the Nikon 14-24mm on the switch sort of thing. It's like there is a need to make sure the decision is correct by gold bricking the entire switch. There can be no remorse. Thank you Russell

07-19-2010, 09:42 AM	#24
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by pov17 Oh god I' ll never sell my lens. Stop. I was only angry beacuse yesterday night I was shooting in Milan for work and my AF went crazy and I blame some minor divinity for this. The day after a canonian, my friend, tried to make me a brianwash. Now that is day (with light sun and fantastic flying unicorns) i like my lens, my camera and all the things about that. I don' t sell my lens Ha! Ha! The Canon brainwash!!! About a year ago I was at a local overlook taking photos and this guy walks up with a 50D and tries to take a picture. No go...focus will not lock. He tries again. Again, no go. A third try...no focus lock. Finally he puzzles over the camera, switches to manual focus and gets his shot. Meanwhile I am shooting away with my Pentax. Were conditions difficult for AF? Beats me! Late afternoon sun to our rear, clear sky, slight late summer haze, subject at infinity...what is there to confuse the camera? To point is that there seems to be such thing a thing as a "bad AF day", both in Pentax and in Canon land! Steve

07-19-2010, 09:50 AM	#25
pov17 New Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 16 Original Poster	Pentax K10D K20D Focusing Screen - KatzEye Optics Maybe I can buy this

07-19-2010, 10:09 AM	#26
clark Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 301	Originally posted by pov17 Pentax K10D K20D Focusing Screen - KatzEye Optics Maybe I can buy this yep, these are great- I was shooting on a pentax k2 and loved the screen so I looked into getting one for my ist DL (which btw cost me £200, 5 years ago) i've just bought a split screen from an ebay seller called jinfinance, I was going to go with katz eye, but I figured it was too much money (jinfinance screen was ~$40) to invest in something when I think i'll be upgrading the camera sometime soon i'll post my thoughts when I get it

07-19-2010, 11:16 AM	#27
pov17 New Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 16 Original Poster	Many thanks I' m curious

07-19-2010, 01:50 PM	#30
Mike.P® Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Milton, Hampshire, UK Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,154	Originally posted by pov17 I' ve got no hope. If pentax will not change I' ve got to change system