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11-25-2014, 06:04 PM   #3346
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QuoteOriginally posted by LensBeginner Quote
Exactly, that's another way.
But four random guys getting out of two definitely uncool cars that weren't even pictured save from some details (out of shame?), dressed up with run-of-the-mill equipment, and attempting a rope-walk in blue jeans (have you ever tried trekking in blue jeans? I can only imagine what nightmare rock climbing in those could be!!!)and a 5$ tee is anything but cool.

Go Pro advert characters instead are clad in technical equipment from head to toe, jump from planes, defy death in shiny bikes with dual suspensions, disk brakes and fancy helmets, dive in beautiful reefs with fashionable swimsuits (esp. if they are female, that's a little cliché I have to admit), in a word they look the part.

So you can actually do cool, just please do it properly.
Otherwise it's just geeky and you'd better do the family thing...


Besides, in general perception, climbing mountains and kayaking in wild rivers is for tough guys, rope-walking is for weirdos...
The cars don't matter, it's not a car ad. What are they supposed to get out of? Baby blue Bentleys? This is not a hip hop video...


Also, that's a cool shirt.


The video was nicely done for the most part, IMHO. The only main thing that disturbed me was the actual photos shown... some of them made the slackliners look like they were just above the ground. What is also missing is that it's shot on a Pentax... that always helps. Canon for example does it, and Nikon IIRC too. It could have a faster pacing, a bit more fun and excitement... but not too bad.


Slacklining is very hip, though yes, I'd rather have someone wildwater rafting with a Pentax in his hands... good luck trying that with a Canikon! After all the point is to show that bad weather won't harm the camera.


In the end it's not what I envisioned... it goes in the right direction, but doesn't show off why I should buy the Pentax, over another brand.


GoPro's are lightweight and very tough video cameras... which is what you'd use when you're jumping from space, or mountain bike down some ridiculously dangerous track, etc. Who please is doing that while taking photos with a DSLR? And what's the point? (Though kudos if you do.) These things are best captured in a video. Of course if you mount a Pentax DSLR to the handle bar and shoot a video (preferably the K-5... the newer ones would return horrible results (to be fair all Canikons would too, but the K-5 wouldn't)) the result would be pretty nice. But you better be very sure that you won't crash, cause that would be one expensive crash!


Btw., similar-ish idea, but much better done (ok, budget was probably bigger):


Just look at how those guys are in the water with the camera... while it is not in the very least water resistant!

11-26-2014, 05:06 AM   #3347
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QuoteOriginally posted by rabblefrabble Quote
I even had a friend who had a canon rebel and upon getting a new canon 50mm 1.4 showed me some great pics and said "you can only get shots like that on a Canon",
Given how far Canon sensors are behind everyone else's. he's probably right!
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QuoteOriginally posted by FantasticMrFox Quote
I never knew that being cool is defined by brand clothing and expensive cars, but if that's your perception ... I doubt anyone cares about how much their t-shirts were (literally the piece of clothing where price matters the least), but if you're really focussed on this kind of stuff: the protagonist carries his K30 around in a rather pricy f-stop bag (I think it's a Loka).
Where did you spend the last 5 or so years that you've never heard of slacklining?! I think it's just the hipsters reinventing rope-walking, but tons of people my age rave about it, and it has definitely lost it's geeky image years ago.
I do not think he necessarily meant that he thought it was cool but that the general public or at least the segment aimed at would think it was cool. In that he is probably correct.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kadajawi Quote
The cars don't matter, it's not a car ad. What are they supposed to get out of? Baby blue Bentleys? This is not a hip hop video...
*snip*
I only meant that the perception the audience get of a character goes through what he does and what he uses.
Also, impressions are formed in seconds (an ad is short) and mostly based on stereotypes.
People like that getting out of a station wagon, and I expect an "office belly"...

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QuoteOriginally posted by kadajawi Quote
After all the point is to show that bad weather won't harm the camera.
Exactly... no bad weather there...

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QuoteOriginally posted by kadajawi Quote
but much better done (ok, budget was probably bigger)
Agreed.

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Hm. I'd like the guys (and gals?) to get out of some beaten up car... a wagon for example. Wearing a worn shirt, maybe Threadless, Qwertee or so and some very worn jeans. Unshaven, rough looks in general. A bit of an adventurer type. And very bad weather please.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kadajawi Quote
Hm. I'd like the guys (and gals?) to get out of some beaten up car... a wagon for example. Wearing a worn shirt, maybe Threadless, Qwertee or so and some very worn jeans. Unshaven, rough looks in general. A bit of an adventurer type. And very bad weather please.
I like the idea.
However a "beaten up car" has some character, while an ordinary car, not brand spanking new but not beaten up either, has no personality.
You detailed a consistent set of features that help paint an adventurous kind of person. I get another feeling from the ad.

Also, it would have been a good idea to actually feature the car more, if it was to be considered an asset.
One idea that springs to mind is a ground-level shot of an incoming wheel braking and stopping in front of the camera, sporting a worn tyre and a muddy wheel arch (mud guard or whatever you call it).
Cliché, maybe, but deliberate. Definitely not a haphazard intrusion of a detail because it happened to find itself in the frame.
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"Are we really THAT rare?" I suspect we are. This past Friday I attended an event where I brought along an original Pentax Q. The moment I flip open the never-ready case I hear "Cool. A classic camera user" from one woman, "Nice. 110?" from another. Before I could respond to either women a younger man steps forward and says, "Digital, not film. Q, right?". For a moment I was speechless. I soon learned that the the two women had no idea that Pentax "still made cameras" and was pleasantly surprised that the young guy knew a Q when he saw one. Turns out the brother of the young guy is a "Pentax fanatic" who loves/uses the Q10(?) and K-3.

Both women expressed interest in the Q system. Perhaps we'll be a tiny bit less rare in the near future. :-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Multi-coated Quote
"Are we really THAT rare?" I suspect we are. This past Friday I attended an event where I brought along an original Pentax Q. The moment I flip open the never-ready case I hear "Cool. A classic camera user" from one woman, "Nice. 110?" from another. Before I could respond to either women a younger man steps forward and says, "Digital, not film. Q, right?". For a moment I was speechless. I soon learned that the the two women had no idea that Pentax "still made cameras" and was pleasantly surprised that the young guy knew a Q when he saw one. Turns out the brother of the young guy is a "Pentax fanatic" who loves/uses the Q10(?) and K-3.

Both women expressed interest in the Q system. Perhaps we'll be a tiny bit less rare in the near future. :-)
I think I'd be speechless for moment if all that had happened to me...

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QuoteOriginally posted by LensBeginner Quote
I like the idea.
However a "beaten up car" has some character, while an ordinary car, not brand spanking new but not beaten up either, has no personality.
You detailed a consistent set of features that help paint an adventurous kind of person. I get another feeling from the ad.

Also, it would have been a good idea to actually feature the car more, if it was to be considered an asset.
One idea that springs to mind is a ground-level shot of an incoming wheel braking and stopping in front of the camera, sporting a worn tyre and a muddy wheel arch (mud guard or whatever you call it).
Cliché, maybe, but deliberate. Definitely not a haphazard intrusion of a detail because it happened to find itself in the frame.
I don't think more of a car would have been necessary. It adds little to nothing to the narrative (unless you add mud, but I feel for this video it would look rather fake). And the cars picked show a f*** you, I don't give a f*** about what car I drive attitude, which doesn't seem out of place. Had the video been shot in the rain that would have been different, but mud would not have given us any further information. It might have worked to shoot the whole thing in the rain, though the question would be... why? The photographer might say that it makes for cooler photos, that he likes how the rain splashes off the slackliners and makes everything shiny, but why would the slackliners want to do that?
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Was at Blue Springs in Florida yesterday. It was insanely crowded, but I noticed the green ring of a DA lens. We walked by each other with the head nod of solidarity among all of the sheep carrying canon/nikons.
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I know they are selling tons of K-50s and K-3s with the great prices, but after seeing two places (in my neck of the woods) just start carrying K-50s this week, I think we'll start seeing more. They are actually getting them into stores.
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I know they are selling tons of K-50s and K-3s with the great prices, but after seeing two places (in my neck of the woods) just start carrying K-50s this week, I think we'll start seeing more. They are actually getting them into stores.
In store I saw K30/K50/K500 quite a bit and sometime even a K5-IIs. K3 is more difficult to find. But it might not be needed as it sell already very well on the internet.

I think most sellers have just the entry level pentax that for sure have higher volume due to their price... and are arround the best compromise you could find from all brands. This give the store a cheap option for WR option.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nicolas06 Quote
In store I saw K30/K50/K500 quite a bit and sometime even a K5-IIs. K3 is more difficult to find. But it might not be needed as it sell already very well on the internet.

I think most sellers have just the entry level pentax that for sure have higher volume due to their price... and are arround the best compromise you could find from all brands. This give the store a cheap option for WR option.
Good observation. It would be nice to have the full line in stores but what is important is to have the entry level cameras to attract new buyers. The K3, at least at normal prices, is not likely to be an impulse buy so it is available mainly online. No question in the ideal world we would all live where there is at least one B&M store carrying a full line of Pentax gear but, outside of Japan, that is not likely to happen any time soon.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kadajawi Quote
*snip*
why? The photographer might say that it makes for cooler photos, that he likes how the rain splashes off the slackliners and makes everything shiny, but why would the slackliners want to do that?
Because it gets more slippery!
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I noticed the Target store near my house does not have the white K-50 on display anymore. Don't know why, it was there a month and a half ago. The Target store near my house does a terrible job of displaying any of their cameras. No power to any of them, all the cameras are jammed together, the location of the theft-profs leases make it hard to get a feel for the grips - just a worthless display. Not having power is certainly the worst of the display sins.
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