Are we really THAT rare?

**birdman59** · 08-11-2010, 05:58 PM

I belong to a photo club that has about a dozen regulars and six or eight part timers. Out of that there are 3 Pentaxians. The rest are split between Canoneers, Nikidiots, and even a Minolta film shooter.

Pentaxor · 08-11-2010, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by birdman59

I belong to a photo club that has about a dozen regulars and six or eight part timers. Out of that there are 3 Pentaxians. The rest are split between Canoneers, Nikidiots, and even a Minolta film shooter.

easy now. I was a Nikon shooter and had been happy with my former gear before that except when costs became an issue. however, I won't consider all Nikon shooters to be idiots, but they can really be dismissive schmucks.

snofox · 08-11-2010, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by birdman59

I belong to a photo club that has about a dozen regulars and six or eight part timers. Out of that there are 3 Pentaxians. The rest are split between Canoneers, Nikidiots, and even a Minolta film shooter.

Our local photo club has over 100 members. I am the only Pentax dSLR shooter among them. There is one Olympus dSLR user, and all the rest are Canon and Nikon users. And yet, our local photo shop in a town of 50, 000 people, always stocks Pentax gear.

This weekend, I was out shooting a Pride Day parade. Everyone there was Canon or Nikon. I got a lot of curious stares, and one guy actually walked right up to my Pentax and got a real close look at the K20D. Not a word.

I feel so rejected and alone!

Pentaxor · 08-11-2010, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by snofox

Our local photo club has over 100 members. I am the only Pentax dSLR shooter among them. There is one Olympus dSLR user, and all the rest are Canon and Nikon users. And yet, our local photo shop in a town of 50, 000 people, always stocks Pentax gear.

This weekend, I was out shooting a Pride Day parade. Everyone there was Canon or Nikon. I got a lot of curious stares, and one guy actually walked right up to my Pentax and got a real close look at the K20D. Not a word.

I feel so rejected and alone!

as long as you shoot and get better images than them, that's what matters. a friend of mine was a lone wolf himself. but got a lot of praise because his images turn out the best among the throng of images taken by Canon and Nikon shooters.

**ismaelg** · 08-11-2010, 07:12 PM

We have a local forum/club and we meet frequently. I'm the only active pentaxian among dozens of Canikons, 2 or 3 Sonys and 2 or 3 Olys. A few weeks ago I was shooting a sporting event (Gasp!) and a Canon shooter next to me looked at me, saw my Pentax and asked: "Are you Ismael?" I was stumped and he said "I figured it out by the Pentax" He happened to be a rather quiet member of our forum. He complimented me on my role in the club and we had a nice chat for a few minutes.
So... Does that make me unique or notorious?

Thanks,

WMBP · 08-11-2010, 07:19 PM

For a second I was thinking to myself, OMG, a Moby Dick allusion!

Pentaxor · 08-11-2010, 07:55 PM

that's the good thing of being alone, they identify you as the guy who shoots Pentax. you don't have to ask the question, "which one"?

heck, when I first inquired about the K20D, the salesperson referred to me as "the Pentax guy", since I was only th one which have an interest on a Pentax in their CaNikon dominated store.

opiet70 · 08-11-2010, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by luke0622

I've been introduced Pentax(some new users; some who had used Pentax 35mm film and didn't not know they can still use their old glasses on the new DSLR); I think I got at least 16 people buying the K-x after I talk to them about Pentax around Central Iowa area... I think Pentax shooter are growing, Pentax really need to change its marketing strategy to let more older Pentax 35mm shooters know that they are still existing and well made...

I read an article earlier today about full frame (getting caught up in the Photokina rumors on this site...) and came across this quote:
"Well, there are millions of Pentax Screw mount lenses out there and nobody makes a camera body that uses them." You can read the whole thing at this link: Full frame DSLRs - or not?

I could lend him a couple of adapters...

We on this site are well aware of the benefits of Pentax's backwards lens compatibility, but there are plenty of people out there spreading mis- or partial information.

There's been a lot of posts about the need for marketing, roadmaps, etc. Those things are needed. I don't really think the consumers really understand the superb value Pentax brings to photography.

WMBP · 08-11-2010, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by opiet70

We on this site are well aware of the benefits of Pentax's backwards lens compatibility, but there are plenty of people out there spreading mis- or partial information.

I don't disagree with your point about the advantages of backwards compatibility, but Bob Atkins' comment (that nobody makes a body that can use all those old screw mount lenses) is not "misinformation". If you read that comment in its context, it was part of his argument that today's heavy investment in APS-C optimized lenses will NOT, in itself, prevent the market from moving to 36x24 or anything else. Technologies that people have invested heavily in have died before.

Will

Blue · 08-11-2010, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by WMBP

I don't disagree with your point about the advantages of backwards compatibility, but Bob Atkins' comment (that nobody makes a body that can use all those old screw mount lenses) is not "misinformation". If you read that comment in its context, it was part of his argument that today's heavy investment in APS-C optimized lenses will NOT, in itself, prevent the market from moving to 36x24 or anything else. Technologies that people have invested heavily in have died before.

Will

The thing is, the aps-c/24x36 debate is mutually exclusive of legacy glass. Pentax legacy glass was made for ff bodies. Even the DA ltds may be usable if and when Pentax rolls out a ff body if they could come up with a system that works like Nikon and only uses a part of the sensor when one of those lenses are used. Bob's problem is he has his head up his proverbial Canon butt and can only see and think in terms of Canon crap.

mysticcowboy · 08-11-2010, 09:29 PM

Guess, I'm lucky. In our photo club with about 60 active members, there are 3 K20D shooters and a guy who just quit Canon for a K-x.

uchinakuri · 08-11-2010, 10:05 PM

Did he say why he quit Canon?

FotoPete · 08-11-2010, 10:37 PM

haha shooting Pentax is rare enough, try the fulltime "manual focuses" part. Throw in weddings and you really get the eye opener lol.

m88k · 08-11-2010, 10:45 PM

I don't know, I only pay enough attention to other photogs to keep them out of the frame. :-P

In all seriousness, I have to drive a hundred miles to access a store with any appreciable pentax gear.

What's been killing me lately is finding sites on the web where Canon users slaughter perfect pentax glass to make a cheap tilt-shift or similar. It's one thing to destroy say a Minolta manual focus, or a canon FD, but to destructively convert relatively rare Pentax gear to Canon lenses? Someone must speak for the K mounts, they cannot speak for themselves!

Pentaxor · 08-11-2010, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by m88k

I don't know, I only pay enough attention to other photogs to keep them out of the frame. :-P

In all seriousness, I have to drive a hundred miles to access a store with any appreciable pentax gear.

What's been killing me lately is finding sites on the web where Canon users slaughter perfect pentax glass to make a cheap tilt-shift or similar. It's one thing to destroy say a Minolta manual focus, or a canon FD, but to destructively convert relatively rare Pentax gear to Canon lenses? Someone must speak for the K mounts, they cannot speak for themselves!

must be unhappy with their premium lenses.

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08-11-2010, 05:58 PM	#121
birdman59 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Marietta, Oh Posts: 116	I belong to a photo club that has about a dozen regulars and six or eight part timers. Out of that there are 3 Pentaxians. The rest are split between Canoneers, Nikidiots, and even a Minolta film shooter.

08-11-2010, 06:03 PM	#122
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by birdman59 I belong to a photo club that has about a dozen regulars and six or eight part timers. Out of that there are 3 Pentaxians. The rest are split between Canoneers, Nikidiots, and even a Minolta film shooter. easy now. I was a Nikon shooter and had been happy with my former gear before that except when costs became an issue. however, I won't consider all Nikon shooters to be idiots, but they can really be dismissive schmucks.

08-11-2010, 06:36 PM	#123
snofox Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fredericton New Brunswick Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 334	Originally posted by birdman59 I belong to a photo club that has about a dozen regulars and six or eight part timers. Out of that there are 3 Pentaxians. The rest are split between Canoneers, Nikidiots, and even a Minolta film shooter. Our local photo club has over 100 members. I am the only Pentax dSLR shooter among them. There is one Olympus dSLR user, and all the rest are Canon and Nikon users. And yet, our local photo shop in a town of 50, 000 people, always stocks Pentax gear. This weekend, I was out shooting a Pride Day parade. Everyone there was Canon or Nikon. I got a lot of curious stares, and one guy actually walked right up to my Pentax and got a real close look at the K20D. Not a word. I feel so rejected and alone!

08-11-2010, 06:51 PM	#124
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by snofox Our local photo club has over 100 members. I am the only Pentax dSLR shooter among them. There is one Olympus dSLR user, and all the rest are Canon and Nikon users. And yet, our local photo shop in a town of 50, 000 people, always stocks Pentax gear. This weekend, I was out shooting a Pride Day parade. Everyone there was Canon or Nikon. I got a lot of curious stares, and one guy actually walked right up to my Pentax and got a real close look at the K20D. Not a word. I feel so rejected and alone! as long as you shoot and get better images than them, that's what matters. a friend of mine was a lone wolf himself. but got a lot of praise because his images turn out the best among the throng of images taken by Canon and Nikon shooters.

08-11-2010, 07:12 PM	#125
ismaelg Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,681	We have a local forum/club and we meet frequently. I'm the only active pentaxian among dozens of Canikons, 2 or 3 Sonys and 2 or 3 Olys. A few weeks ago I was shooting a sporting event (Gasp!) and a Canon shooter next to me looked at me, saw my Pentax and asked: "Are you Ismael?" I was stumped and he said "I figured it out by the Pentax" He happened to be a rather quiet member of our forum. He complimented me on my role in the club and we had a nice chat for a few minutes. So... Does that make me unique or notorious? Thanks,

08-11-2010, 07:19 PM	#126
WMBP Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,482	For a second I was thinking to myself, OMG, a Moby Dick allusion!

08-11-2010, 07:55 PM	#127
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	that's the good thing of being alone, they identify you as the guy who shoots Pentax. you don't have to ask the question, "which one"? heck, when I first inquired about the K20D, the salesperson referred to me as "the Pentax guy", since I was only th one which have an interest on a Pentax in their CaNikon dominated store.

08-11-2010, 08:16 PM	#128
opiet70 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 499	Originally posted by luke0622 I've been introduced Pentax(some new users; some who had used Pentax 35mm film and didn't not know they can still use their old glasses on the new DSLR); I think I got at least 16 people buying the K-x after I talk to them about Pentax around Central Iowa area... I think Pentax shooter are growing, Pentax really need to change its marketing strategy to let more older Pentax 35mm shooters know that they are still existing and well made... I read an article earlier today about full frame (getting caught up in the Photokina rumors on this site...) and came across this quote: "Well, there are millions of Pentax Screw mount lenses out there and nobody makes a camera body that uses them." You can read the whole thing at this link: Full frame DSLRs - or not? I could lend him a couple of adapters... We on this site are well aware of the benefits of Pentax's backwards lens compatibility, but there are plenty of people out there spreading mis- or partial information. There's been a lot of posts about the need for marketing, roadmaps, etc. Those things are needed. I don't really think the consumers really understand the superb value Pentax brings to photography.

08-11-2010, 09:01 PM	#129
WMBP Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,482	Originally posted by opiet70 We on this site are well aware of the benefits of Pentax's backwards lens compatibility, but there are plenty of people out there spreading mis- or partial information. I don't disagree with your point about the advantages of backwards compatibility, but Bob Atkins' comment (that nobody makes a body that can use all those old screw mount lenses) is not "misinformation". If you read that comment in its context, it was part of his argument that today's heavy investment in APS-C optimized lenses will NOT, in itself, prevent the market from moving to 36x24 or anything else. Technologies that people have invested heavily in have died before. Will

08-11-2010, 09:28 PM	#130
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by WMBP I don't disagree with your point about the advantages of backwards compatibility, but Bob Atkins' comment (that nobody makes a body that can use all those old screw mount lenses) is not "misinformation". If you read that comment in its context, it was part of his argument that today's heavy investment in APS-C optimized lenses will NOT, in itself, prevent the market from moving to 36x24 or anything else. Technologies that people have invested heavily in have died before. Will The thing is, the aps-c/24x36 debate is mutually exclusive of legacy glass. Pentax legacy glass was made for ff bodies. Even the DA ltds may be usable if and when Pentax rolls out a ff body if they could come up with a system that works like Nikon and only uses a part of the sensor when one of those lenses are used. Bob's problem is he has his head up his proverbial Canon butt and can only see and think in terms of Canon crap.

08-11-2010, 09:29 PM	#131
mysticcowboy Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: port townsend, wa Photos: Albums Posts: 968	Guess, I'm lucky. In our photo club with about 60 active members, there are 3 K20D shooters and a guy who just quit Canon for a K-x.

08-11-2010, 10:05 PM	#132
uchinakuri Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 57	Did he say why he quit Canon?

08-11-2010, 10:37 PM	#133
FotoPete Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,774	haha shooting Pentax is rare enough, try the fulltime "manual focuses" part. Throw in weddings and you really get the eye opener lol.

08-11-2010, 10:45 PM	#134
m88k Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 61	I don't know, I only pay enough attention to other photogs to keep them out of the frame. :-P In all seriousness, I have to drive a hundred miles to access a store with any appreciable pentax gear. What's been killing me lately is finding sites on the web where Canon users slaughter perfect pentax glass to make a cheap tilt-shift or similar. It's one thing to destroy say a Minolta manual focus, or a canon FD, but to destructively convert relatively rare Pentax gear to Canon lenses? Someone must speak for the K mounts, they cannot speak for themselves!

08-11-2010, 11:09 PM	#135
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by m88k I don't know, I only pay enough attention to other photogs to keep them out of the frame. :-P In all seriousness, I have to drive a hundred miles to access a store with any appreciable pentax gear. What's been killing me lately is finding sites on the web where Canon users slaughter perfect pentax glass to make a cheap tilt-shift or similar. It's one thing to destroy say a Minolta manual focus, or a canon FD, but to destructively convert relatively rare Pentax gear to Canon lenses? Someone must speak for the K mounts, they cannot speak for themselves! must be unhappy with their premium lenses.