Are we really THAT rare?

**eyrr** · 08-01-2018, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by jeallen01

So common, unfortunately, because many "don't know any better" than to pop the flash up every time they take photos - like those who shoot landscapes at night or at concerts (etc.) whilst sitting at the back of the venues!

Would you believe fireworks? More than 10 years ago I was taking pictures at a fireworks display and someone was shooting them with a dslr handheld with flash. I wonder how they turned out. Would the flash have brought the shutter speed up enough to give a usable result? I'd try it myself, but I don't want to incur the loathing of everybody within 500m...

dubyam · 08-01-2018, 03:40 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by eyrr

Please tell me that at least the lens hood was on the right way...

Man, don't you know turning the hood around makes the lens more aerodynamic, and therefore faster? Flip it around and you'll pick up at least a stop and a half of speed on any lens!

**eyrr** · 08-01-2018, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by dubyam

Man, don't you know turning the hood around makes the lens more aerodynamic, and therefore faster? Flip it around and you'll pick up at least a stop and a half of speed on any lens!

That... plus the flash for good measure...

swanlefitte · 08-01-2018, 04:03 PM

I frequently have my hood turned around. If the sun is a problem I turn it around. I bike with camera and it means bouncing off my leg peddling or not. Plus the lens cap is a pain to put on with the cap.

photoptimist · 08-01-2018, 04:06 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by dubyam

Man, don't you know turning the hood around makes the lens more aerodynamic, and therefore faster? Flip it around and you'll pick up at least a stop and a half of speed on any lens!

Yes, but to get the benefits of the reversed hood, the camera needs to be set to Professional-mode (P-mode).

dubyam · 08-01-2018, 06:35 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by photoptimist

Yes, but to get the benefits of the reversed hood, the camera needs to be set to Professional-mode (P-mode).

Absolutely! I always shoot in Professional mode, unless I'm really in a hurry, in which case I shoot in the "Green Means Go!" mode!

**microlight** · 08-01-2018, 07:00 PM - **1 Like**

Or you can use Hyper-Professional mode, which gives you the choice of two wheels to be confused by. 😁

swanlefitte · 08-01-2018, 08:19 PM

The new generation has a new word. Gatekeeping. From the urban dictionary "Gatekeeping
When someone takes it upon themselves to decide who does or does not have access or rights to a community or identity.
"I love punk bands like Green Day!"
"Ugh, they're not even punk. They totally sold out."

"Oh man, I love Harry Potter. I am such a geek!"
"Hardly. Talk to me when you're into theoretical physics."

"Erika Moen is my favorite queer cartoonist."
"She's not queer, she married a man!"
"Quit your gatekeeping. No one died and made you Queen of the Gays!"
Don't be a gate keeper.

swanlefitte · 08-01-2018, 08:47 PM

Yes I put the strap around my neck. It keeps the camera from falling to the ground as I switch lenses. I keep thinking pros are going to see its not around my shoulder and think I suck. Or as Ken Rockwell says if I have the pentax label up without being sponsored I am a sell out!
Help out or let it be. We all make mistakes.

tim60 · 08-01-2018, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by jeallen01

So common, unfortunately, because many "don't know any better" than to pop the flash up every time they take photos - like those who shoot landscapes at night or at concerts (etc.) whilst sitting at the back of the venues!

And it is this kind of person, and the irritation their ineffectual use of flash causes that leads to either flash or even photography bans in many venues.

No to mention the 'rules don't apply to me' types who seem so common these days.

**Cerebum** · 08-02-2018, 12:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by swanlefitte

Yes I put the strap around my neck. It keeps the camera from falling to the ground as I switch lenses. I keep thinking pros are going to see its not around my shoulder and think I suck. Or as Ken Rockwell says if I have the pentax label up without being sponsored I am a sell out!
Help out or let it be. We all make mistakes.

Mine hangs round my neck. The strap also has Pentax on it, although I am working on that, I also sometimes shoot with my lens hood reversed, because I have nowhere to put it! If people want to judge me because of it, fine

I don't care

and I certainly wouldn't give a toss about someone who doesn't know me at all, or my reasons for doing things, yet still judges my worth as a photographer

I am what I am, I do what I do and my dog loves me for it so I can't be that bad

jeallen01 · 08-02-2018, 02:09 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by swanlefitte

Yes I put the strap around my neck. It keeps the camera from falling to the ground as I switch lenses. I keep thinking pros are going to see its not around my shoulder and think I suck. Or as Ken Rockwell says if I have the pentax label up without being sponsored I am a sell out!
Help out or let it be. We all make mistakes.

Mostly, my camera is in my "incognito" backpack or in my hand (with wraparound strap between the tripod bush and the body lug) because generally having to use a walking stick when out and about means it could easily slip off my shoulder. OTOH, at airshows and the like it's on the strap around my neck for quick access. No problem with using a Pentax-branded strap, although some Pentax sponsorship would be very nice

**clackers** · 08-02-2018, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by jeallen01

Mostly, my camera is in my "incognito" backpack or in my hand (with wraparound strap between the tripod bush and the body lug) because generally having to use a walking stick when out and about means it could easily slip off my shoulder. OTOH, at airshows and the like it's on the strap around my neck for quick access. No problem with using a Pentax-branded strap, although some Pentax sponsorship would be very nice

You might find that a Blackrapid-style shoulder strap (goes over your *other* shoulder) stops that happening, and by distributing the weight better, would help someone with restricted mobility like yourself, Jeallen!

aT0Mx · 08-02-2018, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by eyrr

Please tell me that at least the lens hood was on the right way...

No lens hood. Was an L-Series lens however.

**bhbrake** · 08-04-2018, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by clackers

You might find that a Blackrapid-style shoulder strap (goes over your *other* shoulder) stops that happening, and by distributing the weight better, would help someone with restricted mobility like yourself, Jeallen!

I have really taken to the black rapid strap myself. I am hiking it tend to keep it secured with a backpack waste strap clip to keep it from swinging too much and conking my kids in the head.

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08-01-2018, 03:35 PM	#5281
eyrr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 319	Originally posted by jeallen01 So common, unfortunately, because many "don't know any better" than to pop the flash up every time they take photos - like those who shoot landscapes at night or at concerts (etc.) whilst sitting at the back of the venues! Would you believe fireworks? More than 10 years ago I was taking pictures at a fireworks display and someone was shooting them with a dslr handheld with flash. I wonder how they turned out. Would the flash have brought the shutter speed up enough to give a usable result? I'd try it myself, but I don't want to incur the loathing of everybody within 500m...

08-01-2018, 03:40 PM - 3 Likes	#5282
dubyam Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 221	Originally posted by eyrr Please tell me that at least the lens hood was on the right way... Man, don't you know turning the hood around makes the lens more aerodynamic, and therefore faster? Flip it around and you'll pick up at least a stop and a half of speed on any lens!

08-01-2018, 03:44 PM	#5283
eyrr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 319	Originally posted by dubyam Man, don't you know turning the hood around makes the lens more aerodynamic, and therefore faster? Flip it around and you'll pick up at least a stop and a half of speed on any lens! That... plus the flash for good measure...

08-01-2018, 04:03 PM	#5284
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	I frequently have my hood turned around. If the sun is a problem I turn it around. I bike with camera and it means bouncing off my leg peddling or not. Plus the lens cap is a pain to put on with the cap.

08-01-2018, 04:06 PM - 4 Likes	#5285
photoptimist Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,127	Originally posted by dubyam Man, don't you know turning the hood around makes the lens more aerodynamic, and therefore faster? Flip it around and you'll pick up at least a stop and a half of speed on any lens! Yes, but to get the benefits of the reversed hood, the camera needs to be set to Professional-mode (P-mode).

08-01-2018, 06:35 PM - 1 Like	#5286
dubyam Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 221	Originally posted by photoptimist Yes, but to get the benefits of the reversed hood, the camera needs to be set to Professional-mode (P-mode). Absolutely! I always shoot in Professional mode, unless I'm really in a hurry, in which case I shoot in the "Green Means Go!" mode!

08-01-2018, 07:00 PM - 1 Like	#5287
microlight Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,129	Or you can use Hyper-Professional mode, which gives you the choice of two wheels to be confused by. 😁

08-01-2018, 08:19 PM	#5288
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	The new generation has a new word. Gatekeeping. From the urban dictionary "Gatekeeping When someone takes it upon themselves to decide who does or does not have access or rights to a community or identity. "I love punk bands like Green Day!" "Ugh, they're not even punk. They totally sold out." "Oh man, I love Harry Potter. I am such a geek!" "Hardly. Talk to me when you're into theoretical physics." "Erika Moen is my favorite queer cartoonist." "She's not queer, she married a man!" "Quit your gatekeeping. No one died and made you Queen of the Gays!" Don't be a gate keeper.

08-01-2018, 08:47 PM	#5289
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	Yes I put the strap around my neck. It keeps the camera from falling to the ground as I switch lenses. I keep thinking pros are going to see its not around my shoulder and think I suck. Or as Ken Rockwell says if I have the pentax label up without being sponsored I am a sell out! Help out or let it be. We all make mistakes.

08-01-2018, 10:53 PM	#5290
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,755	Originally posted by jeallen01 So common, unfortunately, because many "don't know any better" than to pop the flash up every time they take photos - like those who shoot landscapes at night or at concerts (etc.) whilst sitting at the back of the venues! And it is this kind of person, and the irritation their ineffectual use of flash causes that leads to either flash or even photography bans in many venues. No to mention the 'rules don't apply to me' types who seem so common these days.

08-02-2018, 12:56 AM - 1 Like	#5291
Cerebum Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lancaster Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,829	Originally posted by swanlefitte Yes I put the strap around my neck. It keeps the camera from falling to the ground as I switch lenses. I keep thinking pros are going to see its not around my shoulder and think I suck. Or as Ken Rockwell says if I have the pentax label up without being sponsored I am a sell out! Help out or let it be. We all make mistakes. Mine hangs round my neck. The strap also has Pentax on it, although I am working on that, I also sometimes shoot with my lens hood reversed, because I have nowhere to put it! If people want to judge me because of it, fine I don't care and I certainly wouldn't give a toss about someone who doesn't know me at all, or my reasons for doing things, yet still judges my worth as a photographer I am what I am, I do what I do and my dog loves me for it so I can't be that bad

08-02-2018, 02:09 AM - 1 Like	#5292
jeallen01 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,697	Originally posted by swanlefitte Yes I put the strap around my neck. It keeps the camera from falling to the ground as I switch lenses. I keep thinking pros are going to see its not around my shoulder and think I suck. Or as Ken Rockwell says if I have the pentax label up without being sponsored I am a sell out! Help out or let it be. We all make mistakes. Mostly, my camera is in my "incognito" backpack or in my hand (with wraparound strap between the tripod bush and the body lug) because generally having to use a walking stick when out and about means it could easily slip off my shoulder. OTOH, at airshows and the like it's on the strap around my neck for quick access. No problem with using a Pentax-branded strap, although some Pentax sponsorship would be very nice

08-02-2018, 03:01 AM	#5293
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by jeallen01 Mostly, my camera is in my "incognito" backpack or in my hand (with wraparound strap between the tripod bush and the body lug) because generally having to use a walking stick when out and about means it could easily slip off my shoulder. OTOH, at airshows and the like it's on the strap around my neck for quick access. No problem with using a Pentax-branded strap, although some Pentax sponsorship would be very nice You might find that a Blackrapid-style shoulder strap (goes over your other shoulder) stops that happening, and by distributing the weight better, would help someone with restricted mobility like yourself, Jeallen!

08-02-2018, 06:37 AM	#5294
aT0Mx Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 387	Originally posted by eyrr Please tell me that at least the lens hood was on the right way... No lens hood. Was an L-Series lens however.

08-04-2018, 05:27 PM	#5295
bhbrake Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Colorado Photos: Albums Posts: 336	Originally posted by clackers You might find that a Blackrapid-style shoulder strap (goes over your other shoulder) stops that happening, and by distributing the weight better, would help someone with restricted mobility like yourself, Jeallen! I have really taken to the black rapid strap myself. I am hiking it tend to keep it secured with a backpack waste strap clip to keep it from swinging too much and conking my kids in the head.