K-7 iso 3200 images: No NR, yet the faces look plastic. (11 images)

pcarfan · 08-26-2010, 02:09 PM - **1 Like**

Shot these today in RAW and opened in LR and saved as jpeg. No post processing what so ever, not even cropping.

The faces look plastic, what do you all think ?

Link to DPR thread where the images can be enlarged more (Exif is intact there...damn flickr)
ISO 3200 with K-7, no NR, yet plastic faces.: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

glanglois · 08-26-2010, 02:20 PM

I found your mistake: when you open in LR, there is always processing. Defaults, at least, are always applied.

That's OK, we've all been rookies and made rookie mistakes.

Unfortunately, you're unfamiliar with LR and have chosen (I think) the "Museum of the Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB" preset. It does create odd effects but it also permits the fine photos to show through.

Arggg. Wish I were there again. Would be our third or fourth visit but first with decent photo gear. Thanks for sharing!

pcarfan · 08-26-2010, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by glanglois

I found your mistake: when you open in LR, there is always processing. Defaults, at least, are always applied.

That's OK, we've all been rookies and made rookie mistakes.

Unfortunately, you're unfamiliar with LR and have chosen (I think) the "Museum of the Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB" preset. It does create odd effects but it also permits the fine photos to show through.

Arggg. Wish I were there again. Would be our third or fourth visit but first with decent photo gear. Thanks for sharing!

I am aware of the default NR in Lightroom, it doesn't bother me

Thank you for your compliments.

P.S: It's only a 20 minute drive for me

...been there countless times.

bigdog104 · 08-26-2010, 03:17 PM

Unfortunately with some people no matter how hard you try they are always look uncomfortable and stiff in front of the camera.

Great color and detail though, the lighting in these kinds of places is not always the best for taking pictures, these are really rich. Thanks for sharing.

Wright-Patt is some place I have always wanted to check out, anyone ever been to the National Naval Aviation in Pensacola? Definitely worth a look if you are ever near there.

pcarfan · 08-26-2010, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by bigdog104

Unfortunately with some people no matter how hard you try they are always look uncomfortable and stiff in front of the camera.

Great color and detail though, the lighting in these kinds of places is not always the best for taking pictures, these are really rich. Thanks for sharing.

Wright-Patt is some place I have always wanted to check out, anyone ever been to the National Naval Aviation in Pensacola? Definitely worth a look if you are ever near there.

...

Thanks...the lighting is atrocious there. Over the past few visits I've learned the place more and more.

Wright-Patt is pretty cool, hope they can get the space shuttle as well......Thanks for the National naval aviation idea, if I am anywhere near Pensacola, will swing by.

JHD · 08-26-2010, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by pcarfan

Shot these today in RAW and opened in LR and saved as jpeg. No post processing what so ever, not even cropping. [/url]

ISO 3200 and no PP? I wish my K-x was as clean as that!

**Ex Finn.** · 08-26-2010, 04:00 PM

Those are very good.
Closest I have is Air and Space in DC, 1.5hr. Parking can be challenging.

Cheers, Mike.

pcarfan · 08-26-2010, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by JHD

ISO 3200 and no PP? I wish my K-x was as clean as that!

Yeah! sure....stop kidding

P.S: I think K-7 fimware 1.10 helps with the noise in the dark shadows as it looks better now, and also I am using LR3, which may have a more fine tuned default NR for the K-7 ????? but, still K-x's got a good advantage with iso

pcarfan · 08-26-2010, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

Those are very good.
Closest I have is Air and Space in DC, 1.5hr. Parking can be challenging.

Cheers, Mike.

Thank you...I've got to make it to DC one day soon, but when I do, I will use the shuttle (heard is the best way)

**Ex Finn.** · 08-26-2010, 04:25 PM

Yes, shuttle "tram" or just pack light and walk. You could spend a day at each museum.
Anyhow, your shots are really good.

Cheers, Mike.

Aegon · 08-26-2010, 05:31 PM

Plastic skin tones... must have been shot with a Canon. At least Canon DSLRs focus quickly in dark environments.

pcarfan · 08-26-2010, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

Yes, shuttle "tram" or just pack light and walk. You could spend a day at each museum.
Anyhow, your shots are really good.

Cheers, Mike.

Mike,

Thank you.

pcarfan · 08-26-2010, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Aegon

Plastic skin tones... must have been shot with a Canon. At least Canon DSLRs focus quickly in dark environments.

The faces have the Canon Jpeg look for sure

Didn't have any problems with focus lock, fast enough and 100% accurate. I saw the green AF assist light a few times, but Canon would have saved me 1/10th of a second for each shot, and I took a bit over 200 images and that would have saved me a little over 20 sec....the subjects weren't going anywhere

....Besides the Fa 31 limited has no peers

bigdog104 · 08-26-2010, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

Those are very good.
Closest I have is Air and Space in DC, 1.5hr. Parking can be challenging.

Cheers, Mike.

Air and Space is one of the "must sees", I really want to get to the Smithsonian Air and Space Annex at Washington-Dulles. They have several aircraft I would love to see in person, including SR-71, Concorde and Enola Gay.

kittykat46 · 08-26-2010, 10:53 PM

You must be mistaken about the camera used.

Its been scientifcally proven that the K-7 is incapable of taking low-noise High ISO, accurately focused and non-blurry photos.

Anyway, the photos are really excellent

08-26-2010, 02:09 PM - 1 Like	#1
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978	K-7 iso 3200 images: No NR, yet the faces look plastic. (11 images) Shot these today in RAW and opened in LR and saved as jpeg. No post processing what so ever, not even cropping. The faces look plastic, what do you all think ? Link to DPR thread where the images can be enlarged more (Exif is intact there...damn flickr) ISO 3200 with K-7, no NR, yet plastic faces.: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

08-26-2010, 02:20 PM	#2
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Your error in processing I found your mistake: when you open in LR, there is always processing. Defaults, at least, are always applied. That's OK, we've all been rookies and made rookie mistakes. Unfortunately, you're unfamiliar with LR and have chosen (I think) the "Museum of the Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB" preset. It does create odd effects but it also permits the fine photos to show through. Arggg. Wish I were there again. Would be our third or fourth visit but first with decent photo gear. Thanks for sharing!

08-26-2010, 04:02 PM	#8
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978 Original Poster	Originally posted by JHD ISO 3200 and no PP? I wish my K-x was as clean as that! Yeah! sure....stop kidding P.S: I think K-7 fimware 1.10 helps with the noise in the dark shadows as it looks better now, and also I am using LR3, which may have a more fine tuned default NR for the K-7 ????? but, still K-x's got a good advantage with iso Last edited by pcarfan; 08-26-2010 at 04:07 PM.

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08-26-2010, 02:30 PM	#3
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978 Original Poster	Originally posted by glanglois I found your mistake: when you open in LR, there is always processing. Defaults, at least, are always applied. That's OK, we've all been rookies and made rookie mistakes. Unfortunately, you're unfamiliar with LR and have chosen (I think) the "Museum of the Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB" preset. It does create odd effects but it also permits the fine photos to show through. Arggg. Wish I were there again. Would be our third or fourth visit but first with decent photo gear. Thanks for sharing! I am aware of the default NR in Lightroom, it doesn't bother me Thank you for your compliments. P.S: It's only a 20 minute drive for me ...been there countless times.

08-26-2010, 03:17 PM	#4
bigdog104 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Carolina Photos: Gallery Posts: 289	Unfortunately with some people no matter how hard you try they are always look uncomfortable and stiff in front of the camera. Great color and detail though, the lighting in these kinds of places is not always the best for taking pictures, these are really rich. Thanks for sharing. Wright-Patt is some place I have always wanted to check out, anyone ever been to the National Naval Aviation in Pensacola? Definitely worth a look if you are ever near there.

08-26-2010, 03:38 PM	#5
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978 Original Poster	Originally posted by bigdog104 Unfortunately with some people no matter how hard you try they are always look uncomfortable and stiff in front of the camera. Great color and detail though, the lighting in these kinds of places is not always the best for taking pictures, these are really rich. Thanks for sharing. Wright-Patt is some place I have always wanted to check out, anyone ever been to the National Naval Aviation in Pensacola? Definitely worth a look if you are ever near there. ... Thanks...the lighting is atrocious there. Over the past few visits I've learned the place more and more. Wright-Patt is pretty cool, hope they can get the space shuttle as well......Thanks for the National naval aviation idea, if I am anywhere near Pensacola, will swing by.

08-26-2010, 03:51 PM	#6
JHD Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,406	Originally posted by pcarfan Shot these today in RAW and opened in LR and saved as jpeg. No post processing what so ever, not even cropping. [/url] ISO 3200 and no PP? I wish my K-x was as clean as that!

08-26-2010, 04:00 PM	#7
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Those are very good. Closest I have is Air and Space in DC, 1.5hr. Parking can be challenging. Cheers, Mike.

08-26-2010, 04:04 PM	#9
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ex Finn. Those are very good. Closest I have is Air and Space in DC, 1.5hr. Parking can be challenging. Cheers, Mike. Thank you...I've got to make it to DC one day soon, but when I do, I will use the shuttle (heard is the best way)

08-26-2010, 04:25 PM	#10
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Yes, shuttle "tram" or just pack light and walk. You could spend a day at each museum. Anyhow, your shots are really good. Cheers, Mike.

08-26-2010, 05:31 PM	#11
Aegon Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,416	Plastic skin tones... must have been shot with a Canon. At least Canon DSLRs focus quickly in dark environments.

08-26-2010, 05:43 PM	#12
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ex Finn. Yes, shuttle "tram" or just pack light and walk. You could spend a day at each museum. Anyhow, your shots are really good. Cheers, Mike. Mike, Thank you.

08-26-2010, 05:47 PM	#13
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aegon Plastic skin tones... must have been shot with a Canon. At least Canon DSLRs focus quickly in dark environments. The faces have the Canon Jpeg look for sure Didn't have any problems with focus lock, fast enough and 100% accurate. I saw the green AF assist light a few times, but Canon would have saved me 1/10th of a second for each shot, and I took a bit over 200 images and that would have saved me a little over 20 sec....the subjects weren't going anywhere ....Besides the Fa 31 limited has no peers

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08-26-2010, 09:45 PM	#14
bigdog104 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Carolina Photos: Gallery Posts: 289	Originally posted by Ex Finn. Those are very good. Closest I have is Air and Space in DC, 1.5hr. Parking can be challenging. Cheers, Mike. Air and Space is one of the "must sees", I really want to get to the Smithsonian Air and Space Annex at Washington-Dulles. They have several aircraft I would love to see in person, including SR-71, Concorde and Enola Gay.

08-26-2010, 10:53 PM	#15
kittykat46 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 923	You must be mistaken about the camera used. Its been scientifcally proven that the K-7 is incapable of taking low-noise High ISO, accurately focused and non-blurry photos. Anyway, the photos are really excellent