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lurchlarson · 09-01-2010, 04:31 PM

Today, apple announced that their iPod Touch and iPhones are going to get HDR capability.

So now it's going to get into the mainstream beyond photo geeks. Do you think this represents a prime opportunity for Pentax to really market their in-camera HDR?

jjdgti · 09-01-2010, 04:48 PM

In my opinion, any functionality that goes mainstream is a great opportunity to those that were there first. Now it will be another selling point over the competition.

**boriscleto** · 09-01-2010, 04:49 PM

The iPhone gets HDR but I'm not sure about the touch. The touch only has a video camera that can grab stills, it's limited to 960x720 for stills. The front facing camera is VGA.

I'm still so getting one. My first-gen touch is past due for replacing.

noahpurdy · 09-01-2010, 04:57 PM

No, because in-camera HDR in it's current state is absolute garbage. I assume Apple is doing this to make-up for the rather lack-luster dynamic range in the iPhone 4's camera (All things aside for what it is it is in-fact a great little camera).

Ryan Trevisol · 09-01-2010, 05:30 PM

I'm also guessing that it's somewhat easier for Apple to do handheld HDR since they don't have a physical shutter to close three times in quick succession. They may even be able to do all three exposures almost instantaneously with the rolling shutter.

You stand little to no chance of being able to shoot an in-camera HDR image on a DSLR without a tripod.

As was mentioned, you're not going to get HDR pics out of the iPhone. You're going to get pics that mimic the expanded range that DSLR's get normally.

redeleon · 09-01-2010, 05:42 PM

I think the in camera HDR would be just a gimmick

privateryan · 09-01-2010, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by lurchlarson

Do you think this represents a prime opportunity for Pentax to really market their in-camera HDR?

Pentax... Market???

Ron Kruger · 09-01-2010, 05:52 PM

I don't think the HDR feature in their phones has anything to do with multiple exposures. It probably works like the HDR feature in my K20D, which you can apply in camera to any single JPEG you choose.

**boriscleto** · 09-01-2010, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Ron Kruger

I don't think the HDR feature in their phones has anything to do with multiple exposures. It probably works like the HDR feature in my K20D, which you can apply in camera to any single JPEG you choose.

Watch the keynote. It takes three exposures and combines them. It is entirely to overcome dynamic range issues with the camera. Jobs starts by complaining about blown highlights.

lurchlarson · 09-01-2010, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by privateryan

Pentax... Market???

Oh shoot I forgot. Thanks for reminding me.

future_retro · 09-01-2010, 07:35 PM

I never thought of in camera HDR as a feature, just a menu option that took the place of something useful

lurchlarson · 09-01-2010, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by future_retro

I never thought of in camera HDR as a feature, just a menu option that took the place of something useful

...All in the eye of the beholder...If they could do the extreme tone mapping then it would be a hit. Consumers would dig that.

09-01-2010, 04:31 PM	#1
lurchlarson Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Oregon, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 681	Too bad Pentax was there first. Today, apple announced that their iPod Touch and iPhones are going to get HDR capability. So now it's going to get into the mainstream beyond photo geeks. Do you think this represents a prime opportunity for Pentax to really market their in-camera HDR?

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09-01-2010, 04:48 PM	#2
jjdgti Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 1,824	In my opinion, any functionality that goes mainstream is a great opportunity to those that were there first. Now it will be another selling point over the competition.

09-01-2010, 04:49 PM	#3
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	The iPhone gets HDR but I'm not sure about the touch. The touch only has a video camera that can grab stills, it's limited to 960x720 for stills. The front facing camera is VGA. I'm still so getting one. My first-gen touch is past due for replacing.

09-01-2010, 04:57 PM	#4
noahpurdy Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 479	No, because in-camera HDR in it's current state is absolute garbage. I assume Apple is doing this to make-up for the rather lack-luster dynamic range in the iPhone 4's camera (All things aside for what it is it is in-fact a great little camera).

09-01-2010, 05:30 PM	#5
Ryan Trevisol Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: South Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 312	I'm also guessing that it's somewhat easier for Apple to do handheld HDR since they don't have a physical shutter to close three times in quick succession. They may even be able to do all three exposures almost instantaneously with the rolling shutter. You stand little to no chance of being able to shoot an in-camera HDR image on a DSLR without a tripod. As was mentioned, you're not going to get HDR pics out of the iPhone. You're going to get pics that mimic the expanded range that DSLR's get normally.

09-01-2010, 05:42 PM	#6
redeleon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Albums Posts: 226	I think the in camera HDR would be just a gimmick

09-01-2010, 05:44 PM	#7
privateryan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 209	Originally posted by lurchlarson Do you think this represents a prime opportunity for Pentax to really market their in-camera HDR? Pentax... Market???

09-01-2010, 05:52 PM	#8
Ron Kruger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 534	I don't think the HDR feature in their phones has anything to do with multiple exposures. It probably works like the HDR feature in my K20D, which you can apply in camera to any single JPEG you choose.

09-01-2010, 05:57 PM	#9
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by Ron Kruger I don't think the HDR feature in their phones has anything to do with multiple exposures. It probably works like the HDR feature in my K20D, which you can apply in camera to any single JPEG you choose. Watch the keynote. It takes three exposures and combines them. It is entirely to overcome dynamic range issues with the camera. Jobs starts by complaining about blown highlights.

09-01-2010, 07:32 PM	#10
lurchlarson Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Oregon, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 681 Original Poster	Originally posted by privateryan Pentax... Market??? Oh shoot I forgot. Thanks for reminding me.

09-01-2010, 07:35 PM	#11
future_retro Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Western Washington Posts: 572	I never thought of in camera HDR as a feature, just a menu option that took the place of something useful

09-01-2010, 10:54 PM	#12
lurchlarson Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Oregon, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 681 Original Poster	Originally posted by future_retro I never thought of in camera HDR as a feature, just a menu option that took the place of something useful ...All in the eye of the beholder...If they could do the extreme tone mapping then it would be a hit. Consumers would dig that.

Too bad Pentax was there first.

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