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09-15-2010, 07:14 AM   #1
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K10D - Sloping Horizon

I have been using a K10D for 2-year - I have started to notice that landscape shots come out tilted. At first I thought I was snatching the camera at the point of releasing the shuttter but I took some very careful shots and got similar results.

I compenstate by tilting the camera in a counter direction.

Any thoughts or experience of this anyone..?

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I'd get a bubble level that sits in your hotshoe.
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Hm.. I had considered this and will get hold of one.

My approach has been lining up the standard view finder markers at both sides of the horizon. The resulting picture does not reflect how I lined it up originally.

I have read somewhere that this is a known problem.
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I have the same 'issue' with my K20 + LL-80 screen. I went to the Pentax Service with it, they checked it and told me there was nothing wrong, but still about 90% of the pictures are tilted. That 'much' I have to rotate for about -0.7 to -1.3, depending the lens I use, in LR3's Transform function (in the Lens Correction chapter). Regardless I work on a tripod and a bubble level or carefully hand held, nothing helps except a little luck.

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Thanks Philippe - I am not going mad..

Fortunately landscapes are not my main interest so not such a big impact - still annoying though.
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Mine's got a lean on it as well, I think it's common.
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QuoteOriginally posted by NRM7000 Quote
Hm.. I had considered this and will get hold of one.

My approach has been lining up the standard view finder markers at both sides of the horizon. The resulting picture does not reflect how I lined it up originally.

I have read somewhere that this is a known problem.
It is a known problem that a bubble level will not fix. I have that problem on both cameras.

However, you can mount the bubble level, then take a series of shots until it is actually level, then draw a new center-point on the level with a permanent felt pen. Make sure you always mount the level in the same direction. Of course, it will not help when you are looking through the viewfinder...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lloydy Quote
Mine's got a lean on it as well, I think it's common.
How far is common normal?

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Same problem

Mine went back to Pentax under warranty and the mirror box alignment was corrected. This also seemed to improve autofocus. My K20D does not have the same issue.

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Same problem for me, too, and it's definitely exaggerated at wider angles, when you really need the horizons to be straight. I have to line up the 12-24 VERY carefully, and even then I end up compensating by tilting the camera the wrong way just to get it straight.
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My K20D has a "squint" viewfinder; I need to use live view to make sure the horizon is correct.
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Mine's got a lean on it as well, I think it's common.
Yup, mine too. Rather easily fixed with Elements 8.
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I have been using a K10D for 2-year - I have started to notice that landscape shots come out tilted. At first I thought I was snatching the camera at the point of releasing the shuttter but I took some very careful shots and got similar results.

I compenstate by tilting the camera in a counter direction.

Any thoughts or experience of this anyone..?
This problem was reported more frequent on this forum when the K10D was the most important Pentax DSLR selling.
If I remember correctly, the focus screen was tilted somewhat in those camera's.
You can send it in to Pentax to fix it.

The problem is easy to check; punt your camera on a table. In line with the edge, which can be seen from the viewfinder. Take a picture.
The edge in the picture should be horizontal.

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I had a leaning viewfinder too in my first K10, easily demonstrable with shots taken with a levelled body on a levelled table. Pentax replaced my body with a new one.

There should be a thread of how check the leaning here in PF.
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I tried a few shots on a table - results varied.

Does anyone know how much Pentax would charge? - or even if it is worth it?

I assume, compensating for the tilt will suffice or does the issue have detrimental issues with the quality of the images..?
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