Originally posted by Digitalis I own a few 4X5 and 8X10 lenses that are lighter than their 35mm equivalents. I think a lot of manufacturers go a bit overboard with their lens designs, though considering the limitations of the SLR design it is going to be pretty much inevitable that the lenses for a full frame 24X36mm sensor is going to be bigger, they pack so much resolution in such a small area, it is only recently with the advent of digital backs wehre Large format lenses have had to compete with 35mm glass and I have to say the current lines from rodenstock and Schneider are absolutely brilliant.
The fact is your 8x10 camera was with a bellows, and focusing rail, and did not have a focal plane shutter probably, The issue with a 35mm camera / lens system is the lens is burdoned with all the mechanical needs that a 4x5 or 8x10 lens is not. the same is true of MF SLRs, look at the 125mm lens for a 2x3 speed graphic and compare it with a 125mm lens for a 6x7. it is the camera design, specifically the reflex deesign and the need to have the lens big enough on its own to support the image circle and focusing helix, not a bellows with rack and pinion focusing, that makes them big and heavy.
Originally posted by RioRico Actually it's more like 80 years (for 35mm cams) or 75 years (for 35mm SLRs), but why quibble over a few decades? HF/APS-C size optics have been around for closer to 115 years. Practice, practice, practice...
OK so I am understating the age of 25mm as the most popular format
Quote: Over at MFLenses.com is a discussion of 50's of wildly varying sizes. The MF is understandable. But in my own collection I'll compare the tiny Industar-50/3.5 and a midsize Meyer (Pentacon) Primotar-E 50/3.5, with a body the same size as the CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 or even the FA50/1.4. But the Meyer and Zeiss, with elements the same size as the Industar, are three times (3x) its size and weight. That bulk is cosmetic; those lenses *could* have been Industar-size pancakes. The difference: Wider bodies, deeper front insets. None dare call it ergonomics.
there is some of that, when you look at any lens at any focal length, they are bound by the size of the mount and the need to put the focusing and aperture controls some where.
but the point remains, go back to the OP's question, why not a 35mm "like" camera but perhaps bigger than 24 x 36mm frame, Because thtere are not a lot of lenses to support it that's why.
as for bigger MF SLR sensors, as I said, plenty of room left in a 645 box to put a bigger chip.